Thanks, definitly thw dojos! LOL They seem so interesting they get a place in the pond and the aquarium! 
Yeah, I have seen way too many pond people put a pleco in with the intent of taking them out for the winter, well you do the math... Pleco's nature of not wanting to be cought, black liner, 4'deep slipery bottomed pond, lots of hiding places, and one extreemly aggrivated, wet, and cold person.... then they just give up, hope it makes it, and it never does up here. I would rather avoid the confision and keep my pride intact! LOL
Yeah, I have seen way too many pond people put a pleco in with the intent of taking them out for the winter, well you do the math... Pleco's nature of not wanting to be cought, black liner, 4'deep slipery bottomed pond, lots of hiding places, and one extreemly aggrivated, wet, and cold person.... then they just give up, hope it makes it, and it never does up here. I would rather avoid the confision and keep my pride intact! LOL