i havent been on for a while because i have been really busy, but i fig i would let everyone know i may be tearing down my 55g and my 10 g for a little while, im just extra busy and cant seem to keep up with all the tanks, i had tried live plats for a while but they all died except my java fern wich is growing like crazy, so i got rid of the other plants nad put back in the fake ones (kept the java fern though) the 10g is just really dissapointing right now as it doesnt look the way i want it too no matter what i do to it lol so i may just try to rehome some of the fish in the 55 add some to the 25 and add the rams to the 25 as well, the babies in there now are almost big enough to sell so it will be empty soon anyways. when i do set my tanks back up im probably going to try a FOWLR tank but thats far down the road. Thanks guys for being really helpful with all my tanks!!!!