toadfish/lionfish
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i've always wanted one of these too. there isn't much information out on them either. they get pretty big, up to a foot in length. try this linkHow to keep your new freshwater lionfish, Batrachus trispinosus, with pictures
i'm not sure that their handling techniques are recommended, but i think the information about the fish are on target.
i'm not sure that their handling techniques are recommended, but i think the information about the fish are on target.
speak of the devil, on my trip to one of the local fish shops to buy some filter cartridges tonight, guess what i saw. lol. a freshwater lion fish. $59.99. it was about 6 inches long. didn't move the whole time i was there. a bad-@$$ looking fish tho. looks just like the pictures in that link i gave ya. they said they have it in a brackish tank, and just keep small feeder goldfish and big feeder guppies and thats what it eats. with the size of the fish there, i'd say you would at least need 29 gallons, and that is probably not enough for it. i bet a 46 bowfront would be the best minimum size tank for it.
pish i dont have a tank for him. ive read around that you dont need a lot of space for him because he doesnt move a lot.
i have one at my lfs, dont know how much he was though. wasnt looking at the pirce.lol. but he was in with a mekong puffer that i might get as well. so maybe ill turn my 55g into a brackish tank.
and i really want one, to try something new and all. i wanted to do saltwater but certain things emptied my fish fund pretty quickly and i figured out i wouldnt be able to afford it. but then i really want my freshwater community with my angels, so i dont know.
i have one at my lfs, dont know how much he was though. wasnt looking at the pirce.lol. but he was in with a mekong puffer that i might get as well. so maybe ill turn my 55g into a brackish tank.
and i really want one, to try something new and all. i wanted to do saltwater but certain things emptied my fish fund pretty quickly and i figured out i wouldnt be able to afford it. but then i really want my freshwater community with my angels, so i dont know.
He doesn't need a lot of room but you still have to consider the size the fish gets to. Mine pretty much stayed in a cave all day and hunted at night. A 29 or 30 gal would be minimum for one around 5-6 inches in length, but eventually I'd say no less than a 55 would be needed in the end.
They don't seem to be really fast growers only needing to eat a couple times a week.
If you want something cool that can live in a 20 then go for a "prehistoric monster fish" or "star gazer" as they are commonly called. They are the only true fresh water relative to the FW lion fish that I know of. These guys come from SA and just need a deep sand bed. Where they will cover themselves up leaving only their eyes out and hit pray that swims overhead.
They don't seem to be really fast growers only needing to eat a couple times a week.
If you want something cool that can live in a 20 then go for a "prehistoric monster fish" or "star gazer" as they are commonly called. They are the only true fresh water relative to the FW lion fish that I know of. These guys come from SA and just need a deep sand bed. Where they will cover themselves up leaving only their eyes out and hit pray that swims overhead.
The pot would do wile he was small. They really like rocky over hangs and for decor that would be more like his natural habitat.
For tank mates you have to choose carefully. The fish needs to be larger than it's mouth as to avoid being eaten. I kept mine with ruby scats, their body was tall enough that he never messed with them.
yes yes I've had a few tanks lol.
For tank mates you have to choose carefully. The fish needs to be larger than it's mouth as to avoid being eaten. I kept mine with ruby scats, their body was tall enough that he never messed with them.
yes yes I've had a few tanks lol.
I've often wondered about keeping lions SW or BW with larger puffers as both species would probably totally ignore each other. With the lions having the poison spines and all. Yes even the toad has poison spines.
Brackish is a bit more work than FW. It just requires the mixing of the salt in a tub prior to the WC. Using the tub method that you do...well you're already acquainted with the dealings of a WC from a tub. *Again good reason to invest in a pump*
As for the Mono or a Scat they should work, but only one or the other. Not both. You also want to keep in mind that as both the scat and the lion get larger they will need to be increased to marine conditions.
Not sure if the Mono follows the same guidelines.
Brackish is a bit more work than FW. It just requires the mixing of the salt in a tub prior to the WC. Using the tub method that you do...well you're already acquainted with the dealings of a WC from a tub. *Again good reason to invest in a pump*
As for the Mono or a Scat they should work, but only one or the other. Not both. You also want to keep in mind that as both the scat and the lion get larger they will need to be increased to marine conditions.
Not sure if the Mono follows the same guidelines.
what exactly do you mean by that?
and i think i might do this, just as a learning experiment. then maybe keep a journal of it to help others interested in this fish thingy magiggerness.
ive read that you can keep mroe than one together and that as long as thier about the same size then they should be okay together but one will still try to eat the other. what do you think about this?
and what kind of rockwork would i be needing?
and i think i might do this, just as a learning experiment. then maybe keep a journal of it to help others interested in this fish thingy magiggerness.
ive read that you can keep mroe than one together and that as long as thier about the same size then they should be okay together but one will still try to eat the other. what do you think about this?
and what kind of rockwork would i be needing?
That means that as the fish gets larger they venture out into the open ocean more and more until they don't return to the brackish inlet. So in the tank as the fish gets larger you slowly increase the amount of salt or "specific gravity" of the water until it goes from brackish 1.012-1.014 until 1.022 (ish).
I sold mine to a guy with a 220 gal tank set up for keeping just toads together. So yeah they do fine as long as there are no major differences in size.
With the rock you want to think of a pile of them making a wall with large flat pieces hanging out over the substrate.
I sold mine to a guy with a 220 gal tank set up for keeping just toads together. So yeah they do fine as long as there are no major differences in size.
With the rock you want to think of a pile of them making a wall with large flat pieces hanging out over the substrate.
sadly, due to thier poisonous selves, i am not aloud to have one.
sadder...the manager at my lfs wants me to quit my job, which i am regarded highly at and am working myself up to team leader in, and work for him, which would give me a chance to study the lil' guy...but i can't.
its like one of those things you want so bad but know you cant.
sadder...the manager at my lfs wants me to quit my job, which i am regarded highly at and am working myself up to team leader in, and work for him, which would give me a chance to study the lil' guy...but i can't.
its like one of those things you want so bad but know you cant.