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03-26-2002, 06:22 PM
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| Teenie Weenie Fish  Join Date: Oct 2002
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|  new kid on da block!
 ley*Hi! I'm brand new to the world of fish! I've found this site, and hope to learn alot of good stuff! Right now I'm starting up a 10 gal. freshwater...but hope to get a BIGGER tank next year! Colsea...u may know me as newfish on the comment board! Still would like to talk with you about water...I want the BEST for my fish! See ya!  smiley* |
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03-26-2002, 06:50 PM
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| Super Fish  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY USA
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| Re: new kid on da block! The best water possible for your fish...hmmm...well, what type of fish do you want? Water chemistry and water quality are two different issues that are closely related, but not quite. First pick out the type of fish you're insterested in, that will help decide what type of water chemistry you need. Water quality is simply how clean you keep it, and I usually tell people, if you won't drink the water from your fishtank, it ain't clean enough. ~~Colesea
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03-26-2002, 09:19 PM
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| Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2002
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| Re: new kid on da block! well, like I say, I am new to all this.... Been doing lots of reading... I have well water (hard), but I have a water softener. I really like angel fish and tetras...really all kinds. My LFS says my water chem. wouldn't be right for those fish...they prefer softer water. They recommend a RO unit. But I see from some of your posts that pure RO water isn't good either...so what would be? a combo of the 2? 8 gallons of RO to 2 of my tap? I want to grow plants too...and upgrade to a LARGE tank next year...75 gallon or more... I can buy a RO unit for around 220.00 from my lfs. Is that the route I should take? :  |
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03-26-2002, 09:21 PM
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| Moderator  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Snowy Upstate New York
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| Re: new kid on da block! At the risk of irritating Cole (*poke* *poke*  ), I'd highly reccomend you fishless cycle your tanks before adding fish.Josh
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03-26-2002, 09:27 PM
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| Large Fish Join Date: Oct 2002
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| Re: new kid on da block! You don't need an RO water purifier if you are going have a planted tank. With a planted tank, you will have a CO2 component such as a DIY yeast or buy a CO2 bottle to hook up to your system. With a CO2 system, you pH will be lowered which will be beneficial the fish you keep. I have neons and angels at one point in my planted tank and the tap water coming out of my sink is very hard with a high pH. With the addition of CO2, it comes down to perfect levels in terms of pH (somewhere around 7.0.-7.2). If you do want an RO system, you can get one at Home Depot for $150. It just doesn't have a DI unit which might be required in a marine setup but not a freshwater setup with plants. |
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03-26-2002, 09:31 PM
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| Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2002
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| Re: new kid on da block! I did...ran fishless for 4 or 5 days... We then got a small marble molly (salt 'n peppa) and a small black molly (ebony) to start the bacteria process...have a UGF. 1 live plant...forget the name. LFS recommended it for harder water. PH seems to be running kinda high...8.5 to 9 now. fish seem fine. Will see if the PH drops... From everything I've heard, it sounds like a combo of RO water and my tap would be the best way to go... and thanks everyone for your help and suggestions...it IS appreciated!  * |
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03-26-2002, 09:47 PM
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| Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2002
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| Re: new kid on da block! forgot something.... ??? what I meant is that you mention CO2 will lower PH to more tolerable levels...my concern (if its real) is of hardness... just using my well water and CO2, my PH should be good, but probably my water hardness wouldn't... So now do I need an RO unit and CO2 unit? then use 7 gallons RO water to 3 of tap? man...I thought this was gonna be easy! lol! ley* |
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03-26-2002, 11:28 PM
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| Large Fish Join Date: Oct 2002
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| Re: new kid on da block! O.K. Tell me something? Are you planning to setup a tank where you can breed Angelfish and other soft water species? Most of the LFS and local breeders these days have acclimated the angelfish and neons to local tap water. The fish will do extremely fine in some of the harder waters here in Southern CA. The problem might occur if you want to breed the angels to produce eggs which might not be viable in harder waters. But in terms of having only a planted tank, angelfish, and a CO2 system and having healthy fish, that's all you need. However, if you plan to have a breeding regimen with a bare tank with constant water changes, then do get an RO unit. You can get it at Home Depot too for much less. If you want to do it the cheap way of lowering KH (which consists mostly of Mg and Ca), you can use a water softener for which you have to remove this. Or even cheaper is to use peat filtration which however can get messy if you don't do it properly. http://www.marksfish.f9.co.uk/ |
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