Home Forum Profiles Gallery Chat MySpace Blog Store Sponsors

Go Back   MyFishTank.Net Freshwater Saltwater Aquarium Fish Forum > Saltwater > Saltwater General Discussion
 
User Name
Password


 
Welcome to MFT!
Welcome To MFT! - Thank you for visiting. We hope you found the information you were looking for. Register today and join our growing community of fish enthusiast just like you and me. We have a great group of members here that can help you out with your questions. Also, joining will remove some of the ads you see to make your time here more enjoyable. JOIN TODAY - it's free!

Register Today to Join the Hottest Fish Forum!



Latest Active Threads
What's New? Below is a list of our most recent threads. Check them out!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-06-2008, 11:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
Hellow
Teenie Weenie Fish
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 5
Default Need help getting started

Hi, I was thinking about starting a saltwater aquarium, but I have no clue where to start. The only aquarium I have ever owned was a 20 Gallon Freshwater aquarium. Could anyone recommend me some good online resources for learning how to start a saltwater aquarium, and can anyone recommend me a good online retailer(s) for my fish/inverts/other live things and equipment?

EDIT: I was considering getting the residents of my saltwater aquarium from Saltwater Fish Superstore - Saltwaterfish.com but I need some first hand advice on them before I go to buying...

EDIT #2: I do not live close to the ocean, I am in N. Georgia. Savannah or somewhere in South Carolina would probably be the closest ocean to me, and I cannot drive that far due to gas prices

Last edited by Hellow; 09-06-2008 at 11:58 AM.
Hellow is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2008, 01:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
Airborneguy
Medium Fish
 
Airborneguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Staten Island, NY
Posts: 491
Default

First off, being near the ocean means nothing... unless you live in an area with near pristine water specs, you wouldn't be using the ocean for anything anyway...

First thing I recommend is getting your hands on some books. I'm sorry but I can't remember the ones I used the first time around (I'm sure someone else will chime in...) Once you start reading, you will have specific questions you can come ask here which will be much easier to answer than such a general call for information.

Oh, wait, I do have one book to recommend: The Conscientious Marine Aquarist, by Robert Fenner. Expensive, but a great book. Also, Saltwater Aquariums for Dummies is a decent book (and cheap), to get you started on the basics.

Try to avoid most LFS' information (unless you know and trust them), as this is more of a business to most of them and your failure only helps them profit! Most will gladly sell you things you should not have yet, and then you will think our advice here is "stupid" and "over-cautious".

"Slow and Steady" is without a doubt the way to go in this hobby!

Good luck!
__________________


72g Bow-Front Reef Tank - A constant work in progress!
Airborneguy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2008, 01:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
Hellow
Teenie Weenie Fish
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 5
Default

Hmm, well, I think I do have 1 saltwater aquarium book laying around here somewhere, but it is old, I know. Does it matter if it is old or not, or has saltwater aquarium technology and care changed alot in the last 5-10 years?
Hellow is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2008, 02:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
Fishmonger70
Little Fish
 
Fishmonger70's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Savage, MN
Posts: 133
Default

Let me just say welcome to MFT. You will find that everyone on here is nice and always willing to help out

The New Marine Aquarium: Step-By-Step Setup & Stocking Guide by Michael S. Paletta is an excellent book, also Natural Reef Aquariums by John H. Tullock. These are both very good books.

Make sure you read all the stickies in this forum as well. They contain a lot of usefull information.

Entering the saltwater side of fishkeeping is not an easy thing to do, and by all means not inexpensive, but it is a very rewarding hobbie and will provide you with infinate enjoyment. Take your time and do plenty of research ahead of time and you shouldn't have too many problems
__________________
46 Gal Freshwater:
4 Asst Angels, 2 Serpae Tetras, 2 Black Skirt Tetras, 4 Rosey Barbs, 1 Pleco


20 Gal Saltwater:
2 Percula Clownfish, 2 Astrea Snails, 7 Hermit Crabs, 1 Peppermint shrimp, Flame Zoo

75 Gal Saltwater:
Clean up crew going: Turbo snails, Cerith snails, Nassarius snails, and Astrea snails. Red Legged Hermits too.
Current USA Nova Extreme Pro T5's 6x54W
Fishmonger70 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2008, 02:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
Hellow
Teenie Weenie Fish
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 5
Default

Thank you Fishmonger. I was thinking about making a aquarium as realistic as i can get it (Coral, Fish [yeah, fish], Inverts [Lots], etc.) On a scale of 1 to 10, how hard would that be? Also, what size of a tank would i need?

Last edited by Hellow; 09-06-2008 at 02:34 PM.
Hellow is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2008, 02:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
Fishmonger70
Little Fish
 
Fishmonger70's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Savage, MN
Posts: 133
Default

Generally the larger the tank the better. Larger water volume means more stable water conditions. Depending on your budget and your plans for what are going in the tank will help you decide what size you want. There are other considerations as well such as lighting, filtration(mainly live rock), airation, protein skimmer, etc. I started small, at 20 gallons, mainly because I had a small budget at the time and I had access to some of the equipment at little or no charge. This was just a FOWLR(fish only with live rock) I am now in the process of a 75 gal reef tank. If you want to put fish, corals, and inverts in, I would suggest starting with a 55 gallon at minimum.
__________________
46 Gal Freshwater:
4 Asst Angels, 2 Serpae Tetras, 2 Black Skirt Tetras, 4 Rosey Barbs, 1 Pleco


20 Gal Saltwater:
2 Percula Clownfish, 2 Astrea Snails, 7 Hermit Crabs, 1 Peppermint shrimp, Flame Zoo

75 Gal Saltwater:
Clean up crew going: Turbo snails, Cerith snails, Nassarius snails, and Astrea snails. Red Legged Hermits too.
Current USA Nova Extreme Pro T5's 6x54W
Fishmonger70 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2008, 03:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
Hellow
Teenie Weenie Fish
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 5
Default

How much would a 55-65 gal tank with stand cost?
Hellow is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2008, 04:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
Fishmonger70
Little Fish
 
Fishmonger70's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Savage, MN
Posts: 133
Default

Well it depends. If you buy a reef ready tank with a built in overflow its going to cost you more than a standard, non drilled tank. My advice would be to check out Craigslist. A lot of times you can find a tank and stand for pretty cheap as compared to buying it brand new in the store, When I bought my 75 gal setup I got the tank, stand, canopy, and sump for $400. Brand new in the store that would have cost me close to $1500 or more.
__________________
46 Gal Freshwater:
4 Asst Angels, 2 Serpae Tetras, 2 Black Skirt Tetras, 4 Rosey Barbs, 1 Pleco


20 Gal Saltwater:
2 Percula Clownfish, 2 Astrea Snails, 7 Hermit Crabs, 1 Peppermint shrimp, Flame Zoo

75 Gal Saltwater:
Clean up crew going: Turbo snails, Cerith snails, Nassarius snails, and Astrea snails. Red Legged Hermits too.
Current USA Nova Extreme Pro T5's 6x54W
Fishmonger70 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2008, 05:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
Hellow
Teenie Weenie Fish
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 5
Default

Well, after i have had my tank for a few weeks to a month and it is fully cycled, what kind of coral would be a good coral to start off with?
Hellow is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2008, 06:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
Lorna
Super Fish
 
Lorna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: NE Indiana
Posts: 2,427
Default

Whoa....you need to a lot of research first. I would really suggest that you go with a fish only with live rock and a few inverts. Get used to keeping this with great water stability and success THEN move on to adding a few corals. The whole aspect of a reef tank is to go very very very slowly. The tank and stand are probably going to be some of the cheaper items you will need especially if your long term goal is to have a reef.

Tank & stand
Power heads
lighting (really high quality as you will want a reef eventually so nothing less than t5's etc) a costly investment
live rock (1-2 lbs per gallon could be one of the costlier items)
substrate......good sand bed of approx 5-6 inches in depth
protein skimmer
heater
salt mix
refractomer/hydrometer
various test kits
Thermometer
timers
buckets (and not just full of money just kidding)
ro/di water and filtration evenutally

oh and maybe deep pockets....

get all this together......start up the tank and let the live rock cycle your tank for you.....after a few weeks and everything tests out at zero you may think about adding a clean up crew of inverts.....then maybe a fish or two......

Nothing good happens fast in saltwater, no truer words ever spoken......take your time, research and when you think you have it do some more research.....
__________________
75g reef

29g reef

Living the salty side of life
Lorna is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:08 AM.


 
Biggest Loser Diet Club – Sign Up Now
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8