Zoos Fragged themselves...

[Airborneguy]

So I knew the time was coming, but I delayed and now I have to learn how to do this quick! My zoos have been flourishing, and now one dropped two heads onto the sand below it. One haed looks fully grown, which is wierd, but they are both sitting there, perfectly opening and seem to be thriving. I think I need to frag them as some are growing under the older ones and aren't getting light.

1. They are the neon greens, so what can I really do with them?

2. How do I frag when there is no mat? These have huge long stalks like I mentioned before. I'll get a pic tomorrow when I do my routine weekly maintence.

[Cichlid-Man]

You could probably just cut as low as possible on the stalk and be fine. Might have to wait for the pic to see.

[Fuzz16]

cut low as yo can like matt said.
make sure to do this out of the water wit a good razor cause it will release toxins in the water.

then just supergloue then on another rock or rubble...the saltwater will make the glue set in immediatly but will burn the corals till yo dip it in. just a heads up

[Airborneguy]

As low as possible meaning give them a long stalk, or as close to the head as possible? I see most Zoa frags are really short or even just the head itself.

[Lotus]

I've heard a lot of people use a screwdriver to chisel them off the rock. The rock's a lot softer than you think it will be.

Cutting the stalk off gives a much lower survivability chance than removing the whole polyp.

[di0nysus]

yea i just fragged a bunch of my zoas lastnite and used a screwdriver to chisel them off the rock. it works ok but i'd rather invest in some type of drummel.

[Cichlid-Man]

Could do that lotus, chisel away the rock under them. In any case, get as much of the polyp/stalk as you can. Cut as far away from the head as possible.

[paintballer768]

Theres 2 primary ways to frag zoanthids/palythoas. 1 is chisel the rock theyre on, breaking the rock apart, yet fragging them into small colonies. The other is to use a fresh razor blade and cut the stalk. Cut as close as you can to the bottom (where the polyp and the rock meet). Zoanthids have a matt, so its possible to frag multiple polyps at once. My palythoas are moreso individuals with little strands connecting each other on the rock (connecting to the mother), so its hard to frag multiple palys at once. I recommend the chisel method with these.

Also palythoas, their guts will come out and theyre shrivel up, but theyll be fine.

[Cichlid-Man]

You could also just stick another rock beside them and they should grow onto it. Then just slice the 2 rocks apart and you have a zoa frag. Sometimes they even split themselves away. Takes a little longer then the other method but much more natural.

[Dadstank]

Just a FYI.. like FUZZ said... about toxins.. some zoo's have higher concentrations and some might not have it at all but the toxin is a palytoxin which is one of the most toxic organic toxins known to man...
Here is a link for some info...
http://http://www.cbwinfo.com/Biolog...oxin.html#0001

There was a thread on RC that told of a guys dog sticking it's nose into the water tub that zoo's had been fragged in and the dog died about 6 hours later.

Use gloves.....