Quarantine Basics

tommyo125 · 01-19-2006, 06:02 PM

one more thought on this what if I take all the water out of the main tank. Put new live sand, but keep the same filter componenets without cleaning .... do I have to worry about my tank cycling again?

just a thought?

wayne · 01-20-2006, 01:53 AM

This is easier quoted and commented...

What I planned on doing was setting up the QT and using BIO spira to get the tank up and running <<Marine biospira? Else you're wasting your time>>. Then house my sea horse, cleaner shrimp, rock, crab and snails, I guess with the one fish in the QT<<Why the inverts?>>. Then I wanted to raise temp of main tank to like 84 deg <<why?>>and lower salt to 1014 <<waste of time, not low enough>>for like a week and also sift the sand as much as I can and hope I KILL the bumbs <<totally ineffecctive. You need to give this time>>. Then once I get my main back up to snuff return all the above to main . PS my inverts show no sign of sickness? Hmmmm.<<Why would they - it's a fish diesease. Have you caught ich from the fish - you're more physiologically similar, likely to get it>> Do you think that will do it? <<No>>Also should I change out my carbon filter after all this<<You should be changing it every 2 weeks anyway>>

One more thing I have an hawian anenome . If I transfer that to my nephews tank does it run a risk of taking parasites with it? <<Yes>>or should I just bring it back to the pet store?<<To infect their system - leave it be>>

The cure for ichh is easy. You take the fish out, nothing else, and keep them out for 6 weeks. Mucking around with the temperature doesn't make much difference. When the fish aer out, the diesease will almost certainly die out as it can't complete it's life cycle. You treat the fish in a separate tank, this need to be done for at least a month, 6 weeks as well.

tommyo125 · 01-20-2006, 06:59 AM

Ok I think I'm getting what your saying:
inverts = ok with parasites dont worry bout them
NO fish in the tank at all ..... so take my one fish out and quarantine for 6 weeks.
leave fish in QT for mo to 6 weeks

Got It!
This is the info I've been FISHING for .......
By the way If the ich can attack humans the prob yes I got it.

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tommyo125 · 01-20-2006, 07:00 AM

One more thing my cleaner shrimp has been doing a great job helping me. It keeps my one fish clean as a whistle.

wayne · 01-25-2006, 02:39 PM

Not true. What about the parasites subsurface, invisible?

tommyo125 · 01-25-2006, 04:59 PM

Ahhhh ture parasites can attack humans .... my wife had one for a month and it absolutly sucked. So you are correct my friend

. As far as fish they are quarantined and hypo'd and all are doing ok so far.

dbacksrat · 01-25-2006, 11:25 PM

Okay I have a legitimate quarantine related question: When treating ich via the hyposalinity method, what should the SG reading be?

wayne · 01-26-2006, 01:16 AM

I like 1.009 to 1.010. I do not believe anything higher to be consistently effective. That's the 'industry standard'. I know Sprung advocates much higher, but also has a page quote where he too uses 1.009 as the SG for treatment

tommyo125 · 01-26-2006, 06:49 AM

rgr that wayne all of the reading I am doing points to 1009, it seems to be the way to go.

CAPSLOCK · 06-21-2007, 04:19 PM

General question... can live rock from a QT that had ich go back into the main tank? I assume it would need to be bleached or dried or some such, what would be the best (I also realize this will make it dead rock, but it looks nice so I'd like it back in the tank at some point, as long as it's not "contageous").

01-25-2006, 11:25 PM	#27
dbacksrat Super Fish Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 1,865	Okay I have a legitimate quarantine related question: When treating ich via the hyposalinity method, what should the SG reading be? __________________ -Matt

06-21-2007, 04:19 PM	#30
CAPSLOCK Super Fish Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 3,038	General question... can live rock from a QT that had ich go back into the main tank? I assume it would need to be bleached or dried or some such, what would be the best (I also realize this will make it dead rock, but it looks nice so I'd like it back in the tank at some point, as long as it's not "contageous"). __________________ 45g SW~percula clown, dusky jawfish, lubbock wrasse, antenna goby, hermits, snails 37g~angel, opaline gourami, australis rainbow, syno. euruptus, 6 kuhli loaches 10g~guppies, hoplo catfish, 3 kuhli loaches 5g~black CT betta

01-19-2006, 06:02 PM	#21
tommyo125 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9	one more thought on this what if I take all the water out of the main tank. Put new live sand, but keep the same filter componenets without cleaning .... do I have to worry about my tank cycling again? just a thought?

01-20-2006, 01:53 AM	#22
wayne Super Fish Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,077	This is easier quoted and commented... What I planned on doing was setting up the QT and using BIO spira to get the tank up and running <<Marine biospira? Else you're wasting your time>>. Then house my sea horse, cleaner shrimp, rock, crab and snails, I guess with the one fish in the QT<<Why the inverts?>>. Then I wanted to raise temp of main tank to like 84 deg <<why?>>and lower salt to 1014 <<waste of time, not low enough>>for like a week and also sift the sand as much as I can and hope I KILL the bumbs <<totally ineffecctive. You need to give this time>>. Then once I get my main back up to snuff return all the above to main . PS my inverts show no sign of sickness? Hmmmm.<<Why would they - it's a fish diesease. Have you caught ich from the fish - you're more physiologically similar, likely to get it>> Do you think that will do it? <<No>>Also should I change out my carbon filter after all this<<You should be changing it every 2 weeks anyway>> One more thing I have an hawian anenome . If I transfer that to my nephews tank does it run a risk of taking parasites with it? <<Yes>>or should I just bring it back to the pet store?<<To infect their system - leave it be>> The cure for ichh is easy. You take the fish out, nothing else, and keep them out for 6 weeks. Mucking around with the temperature doesn't make much difference. When the fish aer out, the diesease will almost certainly die out as it can't complete it's life cycle. You treat the fish in a separate tank, this need to be done for at least a month, 6 weeks as well.

01-20-2006, 06:59 AM	#23
tommyo125 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9	Ok I think I'm getting what your saying: inverts = ok with parasites dont worry bout them NO fish in the tank at all ..... so take my one fish out and quarantine for 6 weeks. leave fish in QT for mo to 6 weeks Got It! This is the info I've been FISHING for ....... By the way If the ich can attack humans the prob yes I got it. .

01-20-2006, 07:00 AM	#24
tommyo125 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9	One more thing my cleaner shrimp has been doing a great job helping me. It keeps my one fish clean as a whistle.

01-25-2006, 02:39 PM	#25
wayne Super Fish Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,077	Not true. What about the parasites subsurface, invisible?

01-25-2006, 04:59 PM	#26
tommyo125 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9	Ahhhh ture parasites can attack humans .... my wife had one for a month and it absolutly sucked. So you are correct my friend . As far as fish they are quarantined and hypo'd and all are doing ok so far.

01-26-2006, 01:16 AM	#28
wayne Super Fish Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,077	I like 1.009 to 1.010. I do not believe anything higher to be consistently effective. That's the 'industry standard'. I know Sprung advocates much higher, but also has a page quote where he too uses 1.009 as the SG for treatment

01-26-2006, 06:49 AM	#29
tommyo125 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9	rgr that wayne all of the reading I am doing points to 1009, it seems to be the way to go.