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Old 11-13-2007, 10:29 AM   #21 (permalink)
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well another of my females has released her fry, so I have a bunch of wee tiny guys swimming around once again. The flower shrimp has not done much- he never really moves and I have yet to see him open his hands to eat. It sort of worries me, but not too much.

Other than that I have just gotten an ich outbreak, an need to wait until next monday in all likelihood to get a little tank to house my plants so I can do a salt treatment on my fish. This also worries me a lot- I don't want them to die on me from this disease

EDIT well I went looking for my flower shrimp but couldn't find him- I was worried he climbed out but not too much. Well I went to the bathroom and when I went to wash my hands some ugly thing was on the floor- my shrimp! He walked about 20 feet into the bathroom- thank God too because I doubt I would have found him otherwise. So I put him back in and other than some shrivelly antennae he looked ok. The I duct taped the hell out of the top of my tank LOL
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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wow, thats impressive. I wouldnt think that they could travel far out of water. The last one that i had was very active, he would hang upside down on leaves and eat. Hopefully yours gets more active and doesnt escape again.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:35 PM   #23 (permalink)
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hehehe yeah, I wish he would to, but he died on me. He was moving when I put him back but I guess it was just too much for him .
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:39 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Well so you know, I now have another disease outbreak . It is white and fuzzy and is quickly covering my gourami and I believe I see some on some guppies as well. This is very disheartening, as I have put quite a bit of money I don't have into my tank and now I fear all my fish are going to die .

I will not be replacing any more fish, so whatever lives will stay, but if they all die then I will just bee keeping a planted tank with no fish in it until December when I can trry to get birthday or christmas presents of fish/shrimp.

I will keep this posted on how my fish do.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:26 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Aww that sucks.
Btw, i think you will need to add ammonia if there are no fish in the tank, to keep the filter "cycled". Not sure how the plants will cope with that though.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:03 PM   #26 (permalink)
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oh yeah, that is a good call... I will have to buy a shrimp I guess. I like shrimps, so I will keep it stocked with some shrimp then if all fish die- thank you for the reminder
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Old 11-18-2007, 06:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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damn... apparently I lost my gourami . That sucks a lot. I don't know what else I may have lost as I am not at home right now but tomorrow I can give a better update.
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Old 11-19-2007, 09:33 PM   #28 (permalink)
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OK- I lost my gourami and my colourful guppy male. I cannot find the body of the guppy, so unfortunately I assume it was eaten. The gourami body was removed for me, thankfully. I still have my many fry, as well as a new batch... so even though it sounds bad I am sort of glad that those fish died (although I wish it didn't have to be my two most beautiful fish! lol) as I have fry growing up so fast, soon I will be overstocked and won't know what do do.

On that topic, the two fry that were born between Oct. 18 and 22 are really maturing- I believe I can see one fry's anal fin growing pointed, indicating a male. And the newer batch grew a lot over the weekend, and all are going to have quite the fascinating dark colouring.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:14 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Sorry for the losses, but I'm glad to hear your fry are doing well.
Ever consider keeping only guppies as the main fish in this setup? You could keep some bottomdwellers and other community-type occupants as well, but I think it would be nice as primarily a guppy tank. Anyway, that's my two cents.

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Old 11-20-2007, 06:36 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Well that is exactly what I have- a guppy primary tank :P. I have a shrimp and the neons (5 of them) and then that's it. I liked the idea of a centerpiece though that's why I had a betta and then a gourami.

See, originally I wanted a tank that would repopulate itself and that way I didn't have to buy a lot of fish. Well all the fry kept getting eaten, so I wanted to fill up the tank a bit instead of looking at the same fish all the time :P. But then I added those jungle vals, and they fry have been surviving a lot- about 2 or 3 each batch of fry. So now it will stay as a guppy tank with some neon friends and a shrimp.

I wish I had a bigger tank though :P. 20G just isn't a whole lot of room :P
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