Lyretail sword

beckyd · 09-21-2009, 06:00 PM

Got 4 of these beauties last week. This one had fry on the way. They're already starting to show red! My male is a sailfin, but not a lyre because they can't breed. I can't WAIT to see what the male lyretails' fins look like with this as a momma!

Lotus · 09-21-2009, 06:58 PM

Nice looking swords!

no.1chuy · 09-22-2009, 01:10 AM

these swords are so cool the lfs had some but they were sick. i read some where that the hifin lyre tail swords arent good for breeding but why are they infertile?

beckyd · 09-22-2009, 08:37 AM

Thanks! She's a looker! I have never seen them in any LFS here. The fish are always sick anyway. I am tired of losing fish from the LFS and have pretty much converted to buying off of AB, or breeders I have found on there. Its more expensive, but the fish live, so it all evens out.
It isn't that the hifin lyre is infertile, the fins are so long on the males that the gonopodium is not really functional. Too long to aim correctly. Sad, but true

Ribbon tail guppies have the same issue. And it doesn't keep them from trying, so they're just as happy! Anyway, you have to keep 'normal' finned males for breeders. So, the fry will always be a mix. I will actually keep the lyre male and females in one tank and my breeder males in another. Gotta do something to keep those livebearers numbers manageable

MissFishy · 09-22-2009, 09:49 AM

Gorgeous colors!

no.1chuy · 09-24-2009, 09:08 PM

have you seen the black hi-fin lyre swordtails? they look cool too

beckyd · 09-25-2009, 08:43 AM

No, but I bet they are! Where did you see them? I haven't seen any on AB yet.

no.1chuy · 09-25-2009, 10:21 PM

i've only seen them on the internet but i tryed to find a pic and now i cant i was reading an article on how to breed them. it said that the black pigmint of the swordtail is cancerous and that full black hi-fin lyre swordtails are unhealthy and could develop a tumor and die. good quality hi-fin lyre tail swordtails will have the fins clear or colored but not black. thats just what i read dont know if its true but im going to try to find the article you might find it interesting

no.1chuy · 09-26-2009, 12:50 AM

i found a pic of the black swordtail i was telling you about.... Swordtail Basics - Page 2 - The Pets Forums[/url]
i dont know how to do links sorry. you have to register to be able to see the pic

this isnt much help in finding the pic is it..... well the site is the petforums.com scroll down to fishnet section then "freshwater" then "livebearers" then "sticky swordtail basics" if anybody is able to find it maybe they could make a link

Newman · 09-26-2009, 05:21 PM

I tried goin to the site but there is no fish or fishnet section on that page...
speaking of the fancy swordtails, my future goal is to finally be able to get a pair of Blood Red Super Sailfins. those IMO are the ultimate swords.

09-21-2009, 06:58 PM	#2
Lotus Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 14,778	Nice looking swords! __________________ Lotus and Ecotank's tanks "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

09-22-2009, 01:10 AM	#3
no.1chuy Little Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 254	these swords are so cool the lfs had some but they were sick. i read some where that the hifin lyre tail swords arent good for breeding but why are they infertile? __________________ 35 Gallon community tank 20 Gallon community tank 50 gallon chiclid tank 115 Gallon emty need stand, heater, light, and fish

09-22-2009, 08:37 AM	#4
beckyd Medium Fish Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 357	Thanks! She's a looker! I have never seen them in any LFS here. The fish are always sick anyway. I am tired of losing fish from the LFS and have pretty much converted to buying off of AB, or breeders I have found on there. Its more expensive, but the fish live, so it all evens out. It isn't that the hifin lyre is infertile, the fins are so long on the males that the gonopodium is not really functional. Too long to aim correctly. Sad, but true Ribbon tail guppies have the same issue. And it doesn't keep them from trying, so they're just as happy! Anyway, you have to keep 'normal' finned males for breeders. So, the fry will always be a mix. I will actually keep the lyre male and females in one tank and my breeder males in another. Gotta do something to keep those livebearers numbers manageable __________________ Save money. Earn money. Buy more fish! www.365days-in-the-black.com 75g Community tank: lyretail balloon belly mollies, black moscow guppies, red hifin lyretail swords, 10 cardinal tetras, cory cats 29g :2 fantail goldfish 55g :angels, 55g :turtle tank,ghost shrimp, 1 pleco, 2 tadpoles (until they grow legs)10g :female bettas, 1 ADF 5g: king betta, 2g: VT betta

09-22-2009, 09:49 AM	#5
MissFishy Super Fish Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,237	Gorgeous colors! __________________ http://missfishy.tripod.com/ The Basic Guide to Cycling a Tank, Sick Fish and more! Updated 10/13/09 with a new layout!

09-24-2009, 09:08 PM	#6
no.1chuy Little Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 254	have you seen the black hi-fin lyre swordtails? they look cool too __________________ 35 Gallon community tank 20 Gallon community tank 50 gallon chiclid tank 115 Gallon emty need stand, heater, light, and fish

09-25-2009, 08:43 AM	#7
beckyd Medium Fish Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 357	No, but I bet they are! Where did you see them? I haven't seen any on AB yet. __________________ Save money. Earn money. Buy more fish! www.365days-in-the-black.com 75g Community tank: lyretail balloon belly mollies, black moscow guppies, red hifin lyretail swords, 10 cardinal tetras, cory cats 29g :2 fantail goldfish 55g :angels, 55g :turtle tank,ghost shrimp, 1 pleco, 2 tadpoles (until they grow legs)10g :female bettas, 1 ADF 5g: king betta, 2g: VT betta

09-25-2009, 10:21 PM	#8
no.1chuy Little Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 254	i've only seen them on the internet but i tryed to find a pic and now i cant i was reading an article on how to breed them. it said that the black pigmint of the swordtail is cancerous and that full black hi-fin lyre swordtails are unhealthy and could develop a tumor and die. good quality hi-fin lyre tail swordtails will have the fins clear or colored but not black. thats just what i read dont know if its true but im going to try to find the article you might find it interesting __________________ 35 Gallon community tank 20 Gallon community tank 50 gallon chiclid tank 115 Gallon emty need stand, heater, light, and fish

09-26-2009, 12:50 AM	#9
no.1chuy Little Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 254	i found a pic of the black swordtail i was telling you about.... Swordtail Basics - Page 2 - The Pets Forums[/url] i dont know how to do links sorry. you have to register to be able to see the pic this isnt much help in finding the pic is it..... well the site is the petforums.com scroll down to fishnet section then "freshwater" then "livebearers" then "sticky swordtail basics" if anybody is able to find it maybe they could make a link __________________ 35 Gallon community tank 20 Gallon community tank 50 gallon chiclid tank 115 Gallon emty need stand, heater, light, and fish Last edited by no.1chuy; 09-26-2009 at 01:09 AM..

09-26-2009, 05:21 PM	#10
Newman Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,784	I tried goin to the site but there is no fish or fishnet section on that page... speaking of the fancy swordtails, my future goal is to finally be able to get a pair of Blood Red Super Sailfins. those IMO are the ultimate swords. __________________ Credit goes to Lludu