Cherry shrimp basics

TabMorte · 01-24-2008, 10:13 PM

Fantastic my daugher's trying to decide if she wants some shrimp or another Betta for the 2G in her room

pwrmacG4 · 01-24-2008, 11:01 PM

does anyone know where i can buy grown cherry shrimp? how many could i have in a 30gal tank?

TabMorte · 01-24-2008, 11:43 PM

They sell them full grown at Big Al's here.

forrestcook · 01-25-2008, 02:26 AM

no more than 10ppm nitrate, you say? Ive got a planted tank that usually has 10-30ppm nitrate... Mine seem perfectly healthy, the females are saddling (I got them as tiny babies) and some are even holding eggs currently. None have died so far, except the two that got sucked into the filter (oops).

I tend to think the fish and such are much more adaptable to nitrates than is commonly stated. Not to say a clean aquarium shouldn't be kept, but honestly, does nature really keep below 10ppm of nitrate in streams and lakes?

Big Vine · 01-25-2008, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forrestcook

Not to say a clean aquarium shouldn't be kept, but honestly, does nature really keep below 10ppm of nitrate in streams and lakes?

Yes it does, actually.
Back when I caught some crayfish locally in a lake (man-made reservoir really, but they call them 'lakes' around here), I tested the water in the bucket and it came up with no traceable nitrAtes to speak of.

BV

forrestcook · 01-26-2008, 03:02 AM

I certainly would not have expected that... I just remember hearing about certain recreation areas being closed due to the lack of good water quality... but come to think of it, that area -is- populated by people, not just animals. hmm.. I wonder why my nitrates are always so high then. no dead animals, 30% weekly changes, plenty of plants to eat it all up... odd. Thankfully though I haven't lost any of my fish/shrimp.

cchase85 · 01-26-2008, 08:30 AM

Nitrates in ponds and lakes can certainly vary, just as they do from tank to tank. Some areas have extremely high nitrates, especially ones that are fed by streams that run through pasture land.

I've seen nitrates exceeding 100ppm in ponds, and undetectable levels in others...

EDIT: Technically though, swimming areas usually get closed from high bacteria levels such as e. coli.

forrestcook · 01-26-2008, 10:17 AM

Yeah - sedona (slide rock in particular) gets closed fairly often for an abundance of fecal coliform. yummy.

TabMorte · 01-26-2008, 10:27 AM

I'm SO gonna take my test kits to the beach this summer!

Lotus · 01-26-2008, 01:43 PM

Nitrates will vary by location in nature, I'm pretty sure. Some fish will tolerate nitrates better than others. Cherry shrimp will tolerate higher nitrates, but reproduction/lifespan will probably be reduced. Shrimp in general are less tolerant of nitrates/nitrites/ammonia than fish.

01-24-2008, 10:13 PM	#41
TabMorte Super Fish Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,470	Fantastic my daugher's trying to decide if she wants some shrimp or another Betta for the 2G in her room __________________ 29G - Cories, Black Skirts, Yoyo Loaches, SAE, Betta 10G - Betta, Ottos 3G - Betta Retirement Home 10G - Crayfish tank in the works... no bettas allowed

01-24-2008, 11:01 PM	#42
pwrmacG4 Super Fish Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: My LFS! Posts: 1,086	does anyone know where i can buy grown cherry shrimp? how many could i have in a 30gal tank? __________________ 75 Gallon Planted Tank

01-24-2008, 11:43 PM	#43
TabMorte Super Fish Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,470	They sell them full grown at Big Al's here. __________________ 29G - Cories, Black Skirts, Yoyo Loaches, SAE, Betta 10G - Betta, Ottos 3G - Betta Retirement Home 10G - Crayfish tank in the works... no bettas allowed

01-25-2008, 02:26 AM	#44
forrestcook Little Fish Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 224	no more than 10ppm nitrate, you say? Ive got a planted tank that usually has 10-30ppm nitrate... Mine seem perfectly healthy, the females are saddling (I got them as tiny babies) and some are even holding eggs currently. None have died so far, except the two that got sucked into the filter (oops). I tend to think the fish and such are much more adaptable to nitrates than is commonly stated. Not to say a clean aquarium shouldn't be kept, but honestly, does nature really keep below 10ppm of nitrate in streams and lakes? __________________ 75 gallon planted with 20ish harlequin rasboras, 6 otos, 7 Corydoras Arcuatus, one khuli loach, 7Schistura Savona, 2 Farlowella Acus, a bunch of Aselone Spixi snails and a bunch of RCS/Amano/other shrimp... oh yeah, and 100+ Boraras Brigittae 10 Gallon sandy bottom w/ driftwood, mosses and bumblebee shrimp. I plan on having danios and dwarf crays when I sell the shrimp. 5.5 gallon with 1 helpless African Dwarf Frog and 1 Betta Photos to look: Flickr Photos to buy: www.forrestcook.com

01-26-2008, 03:02 AM	#46
forrestcook Little Fish Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 224	I certainly would not have expected that... I just remember hearing about certain recreation areas being closed due to the lack of good water quality... but come to think of it, that area -is- populated by people, not just animals. hmm.. I wonder why my nitrates are always so high then. no dead animals, 30% weekly changes, plenty of plants to eat it all up... odd. Thankfully though I haven't lost any of my fish/shrimp. __________________ 75 gallon planted with 20ish harlequin rasboras, 6 otos, 7 Corydoras Arcuatus, one khuli loach, 7Schistura Savona, 2 Farlowella Acus, a bunch of Aselone Spixi snails and a bunch of RCS/Amano/other shrimp... oh yeah, and 100+ Boraras Brigittae 10 Gallon sandy bottom w/ driftwood, mosses and bumblebee shrimp. I plan on having danios and dwarf crays when I sell the shrimp. 5.5 gallon with 1 helpless African Dwarf Frog and 1 Betta Photos to look: Flickr Photos to buy: www.forrestcook.com

01-26-2008, 08:30 AM	#47
cchase85 Medium Fish Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New England Posts: 444	Nitrates in ponds and lakes can certainly vary, just as they do from tank to tank. Some areas have extremely high nitrates, especially ones that are fed by streams that run through pasture land. I've seen nitrates exceeding 100ppm in ponds, and undetectable levels in others... EDIT: Technically though, swimming areas usually get closed from high bacteria levels such as e. coli. __________________ 29g planted - rainbows, tetras, corys, plecos 10g - being set up in 2 weeks 5.5g planted - pygmy corys, pristella tetras 2g planted - cherry shrimp www.curtischase.com

01-26-2008, 10:17 AM	#48
forrestcook Little Fish Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 224	Yeah - sedona (slide rock in particular) gets closed fairly often for an abundance of fecal coliform. yummy. __________________ 75 gallon planted with 20ish harlequin rasboras, 6 otos, 7 Corydoras Arcuatus, one khuli loach, 7Schistura Savona, 2 Farlowella Acus, a bunch of Aselone Spixi snails and a bunch of RCS/Amano/other shrimp... oh yeah, and 100+ Boraras Brigittae 10 Gallon sandy bottom w/ driftwood, mosses and bumblebee shrimp. I plan on having danios and dwarf crays when I sell the shrimp. 5.5 gallon with 1 helpless African Dwarf Frog and 1 Betta Photos to look: Flickr Photos to buy: www.forrestcook.com

01-26-2008, 10:27 AM	#49
TabMorte Super Fish Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,470	I'm SO gonna take my test kits to the beach this summer! __________________ 29G - Cories, Black Skirts, Yoyo Loaches, SAE, Betta 10G - Betta, Ottos 3G - Betta Retirement Home 10G - Crayfish tank in the works... no bettas allowed

01-26-2008, 01:43 PM	#50
Lotus Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 14,778	Nitrates will vary by location in nature, I'm pretty sure. Some fish will tolerate nitrates better than others. Cherry shrimp will tolerate higher nitrates, but reproduction/lifespan will probably be reduced. Shrimp in general are less tolerant of nitrates/nitrites/ammonia than fish. __________________ Lotus and Ecotank's tanks "So long, and thanks for all the fish."