A site that will help you determine what & how much you can stock

[KyleBradley]

It would be nice if you wold list the species of individual fish if you get time.. I've got Silver Mollies and Black Mollies..

[homebunnyj]

Not bad, but I kinda like Fishsheet A6.

[KyleBradley]

Ahh, I see the problem... I took all my fish out but the pleco, and I'm 139% stocked in a 37 gallon tank... Maybe in 10 years, but not right now....

[Avalon]

Without having checked out your site, I must call into question the science of the approach. How do you account for individual personalities? That is something no database can account for. I've realized for years that people try to relate fishkeeping to a strategy guide walkthrough, and it doesn't work that way. Anytime you deal with a living being, you enter an area outside of controllable factors, an area a reactive approach becomes more effective. Obviously, it is in our best interest to be proactive and prevent the inevitable from happening, but there is also another area that few have realized: preparedness. It's not uncommon, just unrealized, and it can't always be accounted for. Regardless, it's up to the owner to be aware of what could happen, and this is learned through research. Research breeds knowledge, and knowledge translates to awareness.

However, I do applaud your initiative into helping others stock their tank(s). It's just that simple spreadsheets aren't very effective when it comes to safely stocking a tank. Now that I have looked at your program, I did so during this post, it proves my point: I stocked a 29g tank with only 5 Apistogramma agassizzii's. I can tell you now that fish will die. Your database appears to be bio-load oriented and you haven't taken into account the temperament of various fish.

I only wish to post a warning to others that there are many factors to account for.

[unwritten law]

I think it is a good idea, but just doesn't do well in taking in consideration aggression. It saidf I could have 15 firemouths in a 60 gallon... I don't think that's a good idea but who knows...

I like it, but it needs work.

[yhbae]

Originally Posted by KyleBradley

Ahh, I see the problem... I took all my fish out but the pleco, and I'm 139% stocked in a 37 gallon tank... Maybe in 10 years, but not right now....

Aha yes that is the problem. The program assumes all fishes you have are fully grown up. Plecos are the worst from the view of bioload...

[yhbae]

Originally Posted by KyleBradley

It would be nice if you wold list the species of individual fish if you get time.. I've got Silver Mollies and Black Mollies..

That's definitely doable... Will do it for the next release.

[yhbae]

Originally Posted by Avalon

Without having checked out your site, I must call into question the science of the approach. How do you account for individual personalities? That is something no database can account for. I've realized for years that people try to relate fishkeeping to a strategy guide walkthrough, and it doesn't work that way. Anytime you deal with a living being, you enter an area outside of controllable factors, an area a reactive approach becomes more effective. Obviously, it is in our best interest to be proactive and prevent the inevitable from happening, but there is also another area that few have realized: preparedness. It's not uncommon, just unrealized, and it can't always be accounted for. Regardless, it's up to the owner to be aware of what could happen, and this is learned through research. Research breeds knowledge, and knowledge translates to awareness.

However, I do applaud your initiative into helping others stock their tank(s). It's just that simple spreadsheets aren't very effective when it comes to safely stocking a tank. Now that I have looked at your program, I did so during this post, it proves my point: I stocked a 29g tank with only 5 Apistogramma agassizzii's. I can tell you now that fish will die. Your database appears to be bio-load oriented and you haven't taken into account the temperament of various fish.

I only wish to post a warning to others that there are many factors to account for.

I appreciate your feedback.

I do find that the aggression(both temperamental and territorial) issue is THE most difficult factor to play into the program. Out of the current 19 attributes, some of them are aggression related. Current version does not utilize these values yet. I do have an mbuna tank and a Lake Tang tank - I am experimenting with mbuna/tang species to see if I can at least approach to solve this problem. I think its doable. Think of this as a knowledge DB - it will continue to grow and at some point, it will contain sufficient knowledge to represent a reasonable volume of knowledge for what most people will need. I do realize its a huge task to collect all the knowledge and try to use them within the code but at least the program is designed with that in mind... Hopefully this will lead to something useful at the end...

[yhbae]

Originally Posted by unwritten law

I think it is a good idea, but just doesn't do well in taking in consideration aggression. It saidf I could have 15 firemouths in a 60 gallon... I don't think that's a good idea but who knows...

I like it, but it needs work.

Yes I am the first one to agree with you on this.

[KyleBradley]

I think that using the maximum full-grown size of the fish isn't beneficial, as many fish will never realize this size....