Pushing the limits of a ten gallon tank?

ValRasbora · 07-28-2009, 01:57 PM

I meant the meds in the food, not the fish, like homebunnyj said! Whatever just a suggestion, ask your vet. I like misterking's idea. You could ask your friends about the extra troughs and see if you could borrow one??

waterlily · 07-29-2009, 12:38 PM

I woke up this morning and realized pretty quickly I needed to change the water a lot. :/ It's cloudy after just 24 hours.

1077- He's not actually sick, and he's also only been in there a week exactly today. It's preventative medecine, so I don't think the fish are affected. If anything they might have Encephalitis from my other cow who died.

The rubbermaid container could possibly work, but I have no where to put it and they're not really meant to hold water for long periods of time.

FroggyFox- Thats cool.

I might do that later...I like koi. c:

ValRasbora- I see that now, I dunno why I thought you were talking about the fish. XD And like I said, there are no more troughs left. We don't just have them lying around. No one is willing to let me put the fish in theirs either, because of how much of a pain it is to get the out again. Lame people.

I should put them in the bathtub. XD

FroggyFox · 07-29-2009, 04:37 PM

cloudy is not necessarily bad...because if its white cloudy then it is usually a bacteria bloom

If its green cloudy or brown cloudy then yeah...but you should use that test kit to tell you when to change the water. When you see the ammonia start to rise. Cloudy wont generally hurt the fish...just looks yucky to us

ValRasbora · 07-29-2009, 05:08 PM

If you had another bathroom it'd be cool to put them in the tub.... haha somebody wants to have a bath... "OH MY GOSH! THERE ARE FISH IN THE BATHTUB!! AHHHHHH!!" but the fish would prolly die because of the soap

... which would be even grosser to find dead fish in your bath...

sombunya · 07-29-2009, 10:26 PM

(properly treated) Water changes = healthy fish. If you clean your filter media us de-chlorinated water, not straight from the tap.

I repeat, I was doing daily [b]100%[/] water changes when I was treating one of my Bluegills for a wound. I would put the fish in a 2 gallon bucket of de-chlored water while I drained the 10. The fish did not seem to mind the water changes. Still had an appetite.

After 24 hours the ammonia was at .5 ppm and the water was starting to get cloudy. Water changes are good when properly done.

OrangeCones · 07-29-2009, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by waterlily

The rubbermaid container could possibly work, but I have no where to put it and they're not really meant to hold water for long periods of time.

I've used rubbermaid containers for years. They hold water just fine. I have a 30 gallon rubbermaid tote that I have used as a fry grow-out tank. I also toss all my plant clippings in there until I decide to either give/sell them or plant them in a tank.

waterlily · 07-30-2009, 12:25 AM

FroggyFox- Really? Thats nice...it's white. (:

ValRasbora- That would be funny. XD I could maybe line it, but unfortunately we have just one bathtub in this house now. :/

Sombunya- I have this stuff that will purify the water((or something?)), so I'm good. It gets rid of nitrates, nitrites, chlorine and ammonia.

OrangeCones- I'll look into that then. (: I'd have to find a place to put it and I could probably do the rubbermaid tub thing.

Is it okay if the koi fish tries to eat the pleco's food and vice versa? They don't show much interest in food at all, but I'm just wondering. :/

MadridKid · 07-30-2009, 04:21 PM

well, the general rule of thumb is, "one inch of fish per gallon". and pleco's can grow up to 12 inches. so i would say no.

OrangeCones · 07-30-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by waterlily

Is it okay if the koi fish tries to eat the pleco's food and vice versa? They don't show much interest in food at all, but I'm just wondering. :/

I would feed very lightly during this time of being out of their normal quarters. Shouldn't hurt either one if they eat each others' food. Both are omnivores.

waterlily · 08-01-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MadridKid

well, the general rule of thumb is, "one inch of fish per gallon". and pleco's can grow up to 12 inches. so i would say no.

Actually plecos can grow to 2 feet. Koi can grow bigger than two feet.
I used the word temporarily...it's not a permanent thing. They will only be in the tank for a month. Neither are growing to two feet in a month.

OrangeCones- Okay, thank you. (: Thats what I thought, but I've only ever had little tetras so I had to ask. I don't know why I was wondering in the first place, seeing as they live off cow food and bugs. XD

07-28-2009, 01:57 PM	#11
ValRasbora Large Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 603	I meant the meds in the food, not the fish, like homebunnyj said! Whatever just a suggestion, ask your vet. I like misterking's idea. You could ask your friends about the extra troughs and see if you could borrow one?? __________________ Fish aren't boring like everyone says! 20 gallon planted swordtail, platy, neon tetra, harlequin rasbora, albino corydoras, otocinclus Betta bowl (heated) nothing so far. soon to do a 10g betta tank with betta imbellis. Work in progress !

07-29-2009, 04:37 PM	#13
FroggyFox Forum Manager Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 8,477	cloudy is not necessarily bad...because if its white cloudy then it is usually a bacteria bloom If its green cloudy or brown cloudy then yeah...but you should use that test kit to tell you when to change the water. When you see the ammonia start to rise. Cloudy wont generally hurt the fish...just looks yucky to us __________________ 29, 46 & 55FW 29 SW + dog + horse + catYou can view info & photos of my critters here...

07-29-2009, 05:08 PM	#14
ValRasbora Large Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 603	If you had another bathroom it'd be cool to put them in the tub.... haha somebody wants to have a bath... "OH MY GOSH! THERE ARE FISH IN THE BATHTUB!! AHHHHHH!!" but the fish would prolly die because of the soap ... which would be even grosser to find dead fish in your bath... __________________ Fish aren't boring like everyone says! 20 gallon planted swordtail, platy, neon tetra, harlequin rasbora, albino corydoras, otocinclus Betta bowl (heated) nothing so far. soon to do a 10g betta tank with betta imbellis. Work in progress !

07-29-2009, 10:26 PM	#15
sombunya Little Fish Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: So. Cal. USA Posts: 290	(properly treated) Water changes = healthy fish. If you clean your filter media us de-chlorinated water, not straight from the tap. I repeat, I was doing daily [b]100%[/] water changes when I was treating one of my Bluegills for a wound. I would put the fish in a 2 gallon bucket of de-chlored water while I drained the 10. The fish did not seem to mind the water changes. Still had an appetite. After 24 hours the ammonia was at .5 ppm and the water was starting to get cloudy. Water changes are good when properly done. __________________ The name is Joe. 100 gallon 4 Bluegill, 1 Catfish 40 gallon 4 Bluegill, 2 Crawfish 10 Gallon 3 Sculpin, 1 Leech 20 Gallon 3 Goldfish, 1 tiny Bluegill, 1 Sculpin Member NANFA

07-30-2009, 04:21 PM	#18
MadridKid Medium Fish Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California Posts: 563	well, the general rule of thumb is, "one inch of fish per gallon". and pleco's can grow up to 12 inches. so i would say no. __________________ BOOGIE NATION! ------------------------------------- - 1 Gallon = Empty... - 1 Gallon = Empty... - 10 Gallon = Empty... (Under Construction) - 22 Gallon = Live Bamboo, 6 Oto's, 3 Tiger Barbs...

07-29-2009, 12:38 PM	#12
waterlily Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5	I woke up this morning and realized pretty quickly I needed to change the water a lot. :/ It's cloudy after just 24 hours. 1077- He's not actually sick, and he's also only been in there a week exactly today. It's preventative medecine, so I don't think the fish are affected. If anything they might have Encephalitis from my other cow who died. The rubbermaid container could possibly work, but I have no where to put it and they're not really meant to hold water for long periods of time. FroggyFox- Thats cool. I might do that later...I like koi. c: ValRasbora- I see that now, I dunno why I thought you were talking about the fish. XD And like I said, there are no more troughs left. We don't just have them lying around. No one is willing to let me put the fish in theirs either, because of how much of a pain it is to get the out again. Lame people. I should put them in the bathtub. XD

07-30-2009, 12:25 AM	#17
waterlily Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 5	FroggyFox- Really? Thats nice...it's white. (: ValRasbora- That would be funny. XD I could maybe line it, but unfortunately we have just one bathtub in this house now. :/ Sombunya- I have this stuff that will purify the water((or something?)), so I'm good. It gets rid of nitrates, nitrites, chlorine and ammonia. OrangeCones- I'll look into that then. (: I'd have to find a place to put it and I could probably do the rubbermaid tub thing. Is it okay if the koi fish tries to eat the pleco's food and vice versa? They don't show much interest in food at all, but I'm just wondering. :/