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Old 05-03-2008, 10:25 AM   #141 (permalink)
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I'm going to try to keep it. They get a max of about 18in, but I think once I have my 75g or I may even go with a 90 or 120 and they should all have enough room.
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Old 05-03-2008, 07:27 PM   #142 (permalink)
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that is an awesome journal. i never thought about getting everything naturally. the only thing in my tank that is natural (that i got myself) is a piece of slate from my garden. great fish. and a long read but yeah great. well done. more plants could be good though. =]

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Old 05-03-2008, 08:30 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Thanks Dan, I have thought about more plants but I haven't really seen any decent looking ones recently. If the weather stays decent I will probably go looking for more very soon.

I had one of the sunfish pass away today but it hadn't been doing that well since I got it so it wasn't too unexpected.
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Old 05-04-2008, 01:20 AM   #144 (permalink)
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I just wanted to add a couple of new pictures that I got tonight that show the cat and darter better then my previous pics.





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Old 05-04-2008, 01:58 AM   #145 (permalink)
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wow- that cat has some cool colouring to it!! Nice find Eric.
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Yup looks like a bullhead to me!

Cool finds. I'd like to go collecting locally sometime.
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I love your idea, and love how it's coming along, but I have to ask this question: why is everyone so supportive of local collecting in this case, but when I mention taking stuff from the ocean (parasitic invasive species nonetheless), its like I just cursed Jesus? I mean a few things have died on you already, and these are fish which are used to having much more room. And this is just an observation... I am not getting on you at all because obviously, I don't have a problem with collecting specimens locally.
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Old 05-04-2008, 03:05 AM   #148 (permalink)
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Matt, I'm working on moving down around Charlotte, NC right now so maybe later this summer I can take a trip down your way and go collecting with you and see what we can find down that way.

Airborne, I don't recall your specific thread about taking stuff from the ocean, but I would say if your taking stuff from there and using fish from that same location then it wouldn't be an issue. If your taking stuff from there for a freshwater or a reef tank. I could see where there could be something harmful to those fish that aren't adapted to the conditions where you collect stuff for your tank.

I have had a few things die on me so far, but only one actually died on its own and that was the sunfish today that hadn't looked healthy since I got the fish. I was hoping that having it on a decent diet and stuff would bring it around but that didn't work out. The other fish that died mysteriously disappeared overnight and I'm pretty positive that the crayfish had something to do with that. I have since gotten rid of the cray so I shouldn't have anymore issues there. The fish that I have at the moment have tons of room to swim around and plenty of place to hide in and around the rocks and they seem to be doing well in their new home. I know they will eventually be needing a larger tank and I'm looking into getting one at the moment. They are fine for now and will soon be able to enjoy their nice new tank that should be anywhere for 75-120 gallons depending on what I'm able to find and what I'm able to fit when I move in the next couple of months.
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sounds good. im sorry about the sunfish. the new tank will be awesome. mft'ers love pics =] youll have to keep us posted =] i see what you mean about the plants. and those fish look really stunning. good catch. great setup.

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Old 05-04-2008, 08:52 AM   #150 (permalink)
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I love your idea, and love how it's coming along, but I have to ask this question: why is everyone so supportive of local collecting in this case, but when I mention taking stuff from the ocean (parasitic invasive species nonetheless), its like I just cursed Jesus? I mean a few things have died on you already, and these are fish which are used to having much more room. And this is just an observation... I am not getting on you at all because obviously, I don't have a problem with collecting specimens locally.
I think the difference is that you wanted to take them in mass numbers to sell and make a profit. Alter is taking a couple of fish to keep in a home tank for his own enjoyment. It isn't just people on here that don't agree, there are laws in place so that people cannot collect things just to sell.
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