hello im new and I need help

lilprincess1026 · 11-20-2009, 12:43 AM

ok =0) i'll try that. thank you guys for the advice =0) it helped a lot

lilprincess1026 · 11-20-2009, 03:04 PM

I'm thinking about keeping the goldfish until winter break so that the tank can cycle over the break with out my roommate unplugging it.

lilprincess1026 · 11-20-2009, 03:06 PM

oh yeah, and would craw fish work with goldfish?

Newman · 11-20-2009, 07:02 PM

Nope, crayfish are best kept in species tanks, and preferably solitary, depending on the species. they will harm the goldfish and you simply cant keep them in any sort of plated aquarium either. they will dig up everything. theyre not really that good for clean up either and i find they make more of a mess than they actually help the tank. I woudnt bother unless you really like em and youre willing to dedicate a tank to only one crayfish...

lilprincess1026 · 11-20-2009, 08:55 PM

oh ok thats true. I asked the man at the petstore if the ghost shrimp were cold water and he said no. but he gave me 2 fiddler crabs for free because mine died, So i am going to keep them in their own tank. right now they are in a 5 gal tank so i can get a bigger tank and things tomorrow, they have shallow water and two rocks to come up onto. would i be able to keep guppies with them?

Newman · 11-20-2009, 09:02 PM

prolly not, but if you dont really care for those guppies much, you can try it. the guppies wont appreciate the shallow water (if theres not much water in there) but who knows, they might all get along.

ghost shrimp can live in colder water. people keep them in Koi ponds for food for koi and cleanup extra food. they multiply in ponds quickly so the Koi wont extinguish them. ghost shrimp whould be ok w/o a filter for a while as longas temp dont go below 62F. thats just an estimate..

lilprincess1026 · 11-20-2009, 09:56 PM

hmmm, do you know much about keeping fiddlers? i looked them up and see that they like sand and water and moving water

Newman · 11-20-2009, 10:14 PM

not much, i just know their basics. I have never kept them. they would appreciate brackish water, a slower powerhead, sand or small gravel, rocks that are either sloped appropriately or easy to climb onto, warmer water, alkaline pH (around 8.0)...and some other things i cant remember..

lilprincess1026 · 11-21-2009, 03:34 AM

ok and you said that maple leaves can help the water become brackish? hmm where on this fourm do you think i could go for help with these guys?

I also thank you for the very good information you gave me. it helped a lot. i really want to get tropical fish but im afraid to get them because of my roommate. =0/

GregBox · 11-21-2009, 10:53 AM

Hey Princess sorry to hear about how much of pain this has become. I think that your best bet is to get two of these Tom Aquarium Products Mini Internal Filter - Internal Filters - Filtration & Circulation - PetSmart. You can actually totally submerge these and they make absolutely zero noise. In terms of your fish stock, i'm not sure what type of heater your using but when we had the ten gallon tank set up we got three dwarf puffer fish they only get about an inch big too so you could safely put five in there with those snails. There very fun to watch, the only downside is that they require snails.

11-20-2009, 07:02 PM	#44
Newman Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,784	Nope, crayfish are best kept in species tanks, and preferably solitary, depending on the species. they will harm the goldfish and you simply cant keep them in any sort of plated aquarium either. they will dig up everything. theyre not really that good for clean up either and i find they make more of a mess than they actually help the tank. I woudnt bother unless you really like em and youre willing to dedicate a tank to only one crayfish... __________________ Credit goes to Lludu

11-20-2009, 09:02 PM	#46
Newman Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,784	prolly not, but if you dont really care for those guppies much, you can try it. the guppies wont appreciate the shallow water (if theres not much water in there) but who knows, they might all get along. ghost shrimp can live in colder water. people keep them in Koi ponds for food for koi and cleanup extra food. they multiply in ponds quickly so the Koi wont extinguish them. ghost shrimp whould be ok w/o a filter for a while as longas temp dont go below 62F. thats just an estimate.. __________________ Credit goes to Lludu

11-20-2009, 10:14 PM	#48
Newman Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,784	not much, i just know their basics. I have never kept them. they would appreciate brackish water, a slower powerhead, sand or small gravel, rocks that are either sloped appropriately or easy to climb onto, warmer water, alkaline pH (around 8.0)...and some other things i cant remember.. __________________ Credit goes to Lludu

11-21-2009, 10:53 AM	#50
GregBox Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 46	Hey Princess sorry to hear about how much of pain this has become. I think that your best bet is to get two of these Tom Aquarium Products Mini Internal Filter - Internal Filters - Filtration & Circulation - PetSmart. You can actually totally submerge these and they make absolutely zero noise. In terms of your fish stock, i'm not sure what type of heater your using but when we had the ten gallon tank set up we got three dwarf puffer fish they only get about an inch big too so you could safely put five in there with those snails. There very fun to watch, the only downside is that they require snails. __________________ Current Aquariums 29 Gallon Planted Community 16 Gallon Dutch

11-20-2009, 12:43 AM	#41
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	ok =0) i'll try that. thank you guys for the advice =0) it helped a lot

11-20-2009, 03:04 PM	#42
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	I'm thinking about keeping the goldfish until winter break so that the tank can cycle over the break with out my roommate unplugging it.

11-20-2009, 03:06 PM	#43
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	oh yeah, and would craw fish work with goldfish?

11-20-2009, 08:55 PM	#45
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	oh ok thats true. I asked the man at the petstore if the ghost shrimp were cold water and he said no. but he gave me 2 fiddler crabs for free because mine died, So i am going to keep them in their own tank. right now they are in a 5 gal tank so i can get a bigger tank and things tomorrow, they have shallow water and two rocks to come up onto. would i be able to keep guppies with them?

11-20-2009, 09:56 PM	#47
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	hmmm, do you know much about keeping fiddlers? i looked them up and see that they like sand and water and moving water

11-21-2009, 03:34 AM	#49
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	ok and you said that maple leaves can help the water become brackish? hmm where on this fourm do you think i could go for help with these guys? I also thank you for the very good information you gave me. it helped a lot. i really want to get tropical fish but im afraid to get them because of my roommate. =0/