hello im new and I need help

Nemo'sMom · 11-17-2009, 03:51 PM

you said you got the fish from your RA? Can you get her involved? Anyone who can sleep with a tv on can easily adapt to sleeping with a filter running ... she just doesn't want to. Kindly let her know that she is unknowingly walking all us "old folks" down memory lane. Parts of that road were forgotten for a reason! I had this one roommate ....

Find someone with authority to intervene. The tank is permissible, the filter has been made as quiet as humanly possible, she sleeps with the tv on anyway ... and put in for a roommate transfer ASAP!

MissFishy · 11-17-2009, 06:54 PM

Hi princess, take a look a the site linked below in my profile. It has set up instructions and stocking ideas. Your tank is not large enough for even one goldfish, let alone the number you have in there right now.

AndiH · 11-17-2009, 09:32 PM

I am a huge fan of cories and a small school of pygmy cories would do great and you'll have a blast watching them. You could get a single betta and put in something like the cories. No fancy guppies etc that might set the betta off as you won't have the space to seperate them if need be.

Regarding fiddler crabs, my kid bought 2 and threw them in with the goldfish I had at the time. She went with what the shop employee said and thought they could stay under water all the time. We only discovered how wrong this was when 1 disappeared and 2 days later we found it all the way across the house covered with dust and lint and missing 2 legs. It did recover but they are now in their own Critter Keeper with terraced sand, hiding places, and water and are much happier there. You COULD just keep fiddler crabs instead of fish in there. Get some play sand from Lowes for less than $3 a bag, something for them to hid under, some wood or stones to build a terrace. It won't require a filter and depending on the temp of your room won't need a heater. I use a well wrapped heating pad under the cage as needed, but there are some heaters you can put under the sand (I will be getting one eventually

I feed mine crushed shrimp pellets and occasionally a crushed algae wafer.

If you want cold water fish, try the white mountain minnows or rosy minnows. Both tolerate cold water and dont get that big. They are schooling fish so youd need several of one kind.

bassbonediva · 11-18-2009, 09:46 AM

Sorry your roommate is such a jerk. :-( I've had roommates before that were like that and they suck big time.

As far as what you can put in the 10gal. Might I suggest a male betta? You could still put in some of the other tropical community fish that others have suggested. I suggest a betta for several reasons. 1-they're incredibly hardy. 2-they're very colorful. 3-they have TONS of personality. I have a total of 16 right now (nine females and seven males) and wouldn't have anything else...although I do want maybe some black mollies for my big tank since I'm nowhere near capacity on it.

phin · 11-18-2009, 10:42 AM

Yeah, you probably don't want to do anything to her that will lead back to you. At least if you want to keep a tank running in your room. Or you could just steal her boyfriend or something.

lilprincess1026 · 11-18-2009, 02:40 PM

yeah.. she continues to unplug the filter. *shakes head*
my water is cloudy and it stinks its really annoying, i dont think i'm going to jeopardize the lives of tropical fish by having them in the same room as her. I mean its one thing to mess around with goldfish but Tropical fish seem to be of higher quality? i dunno. I think i'll go with the beta idea and just get a bigger tank for home. I'm deff not going to give up on the fish because that would only satisfy her. I'll try compramising ... hmmm....

what to do what to do?

Newman · 11-18-2009, 03:10 PM

Check the nitrates of the water with a strip (cuz evidently you havent bothered with a liquid test yet) stinking water is a sign of high nitrates/nitrites and an immediate water change should be in order.

lilprincess1026 · 11-18-2009, 06:28 PM

what will the shrimp do?

Newman · 11-18-2009, 07:29 PM

Shrimp? i cant find the spot where you asked about them, so sorry if ill be referring to the wrong species. Ghost shrimp are good even for colder water like in a goldfish tank but the goldfish will eat them, given the chance. so dont put them in with goldfish. cherry shrimp and amano shrimp ill be good for a trpical heated tank but as long as you have paceful, small sized fish, not bigger than a standard 3" swordtail.

What shimp basically do is eat leftover food, especially vegetables like peas and romaine lettuce. they clean minimal algae, and only the stuff from the decor and gravel. they ont normally bother with the glass. snails are good glass cleaners but careful of what you get. ramhorns and trapdoor snails are for ponds and they gladly multiply fast. nerite snails wil be a better choice for your tank. i'd say get one or two for a 10 gal.

lilprincess1026 · 11-18-2009, 08:08 PM

I have two snails one is yellow with little red paterns on it and the other is black with little red paterns. i dont know what they are. Pet smart didnt say what they were.

11-17-2009, 03:51 PM	#11
Nemo'sMom Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 36	you said you got the fish from your RA? Can you get her involved? Anyone who can sleep with a tv on can easily adapt to sleeping with a filter running ... she just doesn't want to. Kindly let her know that she is unknowingly walking all us "old folks" down memory lane. Parts of that road were forgotten for a reason! I had this one roommate .... Find someone with authority to intervene. The tank is permissible, the filter has been made as quiet as humanly possible, she sleeps with the tv on anyway ... and put in for a roommate transfer ASAP! __________________ 26 gallon: 1 Red Oranda (I have a 2 yo... of course his name is Nemo) 1 Calico Ryukin (Nigel ... again "Finding Nemo") 1 Red/White Ryukin (Coral ... you get the picture) 3 gallon: shrimp someday?

11-17-2009, 06:54 PM	#12
MissFishy Super Fish Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,237	Hi princess, take a look a the site linked below in my profile. It has set up instructions and stocking ideas. Your tank is not large enough for even one goldfish, let alone the number you have in there right now. __________________ http://missfishy.tripod.com/ The Basic Guide to Cycling a Tank, Sick Fish and more! Updated 10/13/09 with a new layout!

11-17-2009, 09:32 PM	#13
AndiH Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 60	I am a huge fan of cories and a small school of pygmy cories would do great and you'll have a blast watching them. You could get a single betta and put in something like the cories. No fancy guppies etc that might set the betta off as you won't have the space to seperate them if need be. Regarding fiddler crabs, my kid bought 2 and threw them in with the goldfish I had at the time. She went with what the shop employee said and thought they could stay under water all the time. We only discovered how wrong this was when 1 disappeared and 2 days later we found it all the way across the house covered with dust and lint and missing 2 legs. It did recover but they are now in their own Critter Keeper with terraced sand, hiding places, and water and are much happier there. You COULD just keep fiddler crabs instead of fish in there. Get some play sand from Lowes for less than $3 a bag, something for them to hid under, some wood or stones to build a terrace. It won't require a filter and depending on the temp of your room won't need a heater. I use a well wrapped heating pad under the cage as needed, but there are some heaters you can put under the sand (I will be getting one eventually I feed mine crushed shrimp pellets and occasionally a crushed algae wafer. If you want cold water fish, try the white mountain minnows or rosy minnows. Both tolerate cold water and dont get that big. They are schooling fish so youd need several of one kind. __________________ 14g, 3 cory (2 panda, 1 skunk), Colisa lalia (1 flame and 1 blue?) 5g, Divided with 2 male betta

11-18-2009, 10:42 AM	#15
phin Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 92	Yeah, you probably don't want to do anything to her that will lead back to you. At least if you want to keep a tank running in your room. Or you could just steal her boyfriend or something. __________________ 18 gallon tall 6 neon tetras 1 black neon tetra 2 cherry spot rasboras ghost shrimp Anubias bartari Anubias nana Java Fern Hygrophila polysperma Red cryptocoryne Cryptocoryne lueta Cryptocoryne wendtii (bronze wendtii) Java Moss lots of driftwood

11-18-2009, 03:10 PM	#17
Newman Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,788	Check the nitrates of the water with a strip (cuz evidently you havent bothered with a liquid test yet) stinking water is a sign of high nitrates/nitrites and an immediate water change should be in order. __________________ Credit goes to Lludu

11-18-2009, 09:46 AM	#14
bassbonediva Large Fish Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 660	Sorry your roommate is such a jerk. :-( I've had roommates before that were like that and they suck big time. As far as what you can put in the 10gal. Might I suggest a male betta? You could still put in some of the other tropical community fish that others have suggested. I suggest a betta for several reasons. 1-they're incredibly hardy. 2-they're very colorful. 3-they have TONS of personality. I have a total of 16 right now (nine females and seven males) and wouldn't have anything else...although I do want maybe some black mollies for my big tank since I'm nowhere near capacity on it.

11-18-2009, 02:40 PM	#16
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	yeah.. she continues to unplug the filter. shakes head my water is cloudy and it stinks its really annoying, i dont think i'm going to jeopardize the lives of tropical fish by having them in the same room as her. I mean its one thing to mess around with goldfish but Tropical fish seem to be of higher quality? i dunno. I think i'll go with the beta idea and just get a bigger tank for home. I'm deff not going to give up on the fish because that would only satisfy her. I'll try compramising ... hmmm.... what to do what to do?

11-18-2009, 06:28 PM	#18
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	what will the shrimp do?

11-18-2009, 07:29 PM	#19
Newman Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,788	Shrimp? i cant find the spot where you asked about them, so sorry if ill be referring to the wrong species. Ghost shrimp are good even for colder water like in a goldfish tank but the goldfish will eat them, given the chance. so dont put them in with goldfish. cherry shrimp and amano shrimp ill be good for a trpical heated tank but as long as you have paceful, small sized fish, not bigger than a standard 3" swordtail. What shimp basically do is eat leftover food, especially vegetables like peas and romaine lettuce. they clean minimal algae, and only the stuff from the decor and gravel. they ont normally bother with the glass. snails are good glass cleaners but careful of what you get. ramhorns and trapdoor snails are for ponds and they gladly multiply fast. nerite snails wil be a better choice for your tank. i'd say get one or two for a 10 gal. __________________ Credit goes to Lludu

11-18-2009, 08:08 PM	#20
lilprincess1026 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 27	I have two snails one is yellow with little red paterns on it and the other is black with little red paterns. i dont know what they are. Pet smart didnt say what they were.