Same Isssue Been a while What Now?

Newman · 11-02-2009, 09:06 PM

I do the same with my tap water, but when i change it it ends up cooling my tank 5 degrees F . idk if its too bad, but the fish have dealt with it.

I meant about the pleco

epond83 · 11-02-2009, 09:42 PM

Do you have a heater in your tank? What is the temp in the tank? Pelcos propably need higher temps then a room temp tank. This is combined with an uncycled tank is not going to help. How long has this tank been up and running?

JRB__ · 11-02-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by epond83

Do you have a heater in your tank? What is the temp in the tank? Pelcos propably need higher temps then a room temp tank. This is combined with an uncycled tank is not going to help....

I second that

luv2fish25 you are having a terrible intro to this hobby

Your fish are tropical fish and there for require a higher than room temprature temp.
Also, where are you keeping the water for 2 days before you add it to the tank? Is there any chance it is becoming contaminated some how during that time? cleaning chems, sprays etc??

JRB__ · 11-02-2009, 10:21 PM

luv2fish35 give us a complete run down on your set-up. Maybe with a little more info someone might have a lightbulb moment...

Tank size and measurements

Substrate + live plants

Ornaments, rocks, caves etc

All chemicals currently in use + names and brands

Filtration system, airation system + names and brands

Age of tank (time since set-up)

Kinds of fish kept

Testing kit/s you using + brands

And finally an up to date reading of ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH

Oh and btw, good job on not giving up yet. Most people would have.

luv2fish35 · 11-03-2009, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Newman

I do the same with my tap water, but when i change it it ends up cooling my tank 5 degrees F . idk if its too bad, but the fish have dealt with it.

I meant about the pleco

I got up this morning and he is still alive and not floating so we'll see...

luv2fish35 · 11-03-2009, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epond83

Do you have a heater in your tank? What is the temp in the tank? Pelcos propably need higher temps then a room temp tank. This is combined with an uncycled tank is not going to help. How long has this tank been up and running?

Yes I have a heater in my tank the temp stays about 76-78 degrees and my tank has been running now since about the end of september I believe

luv2fish35 · 11-03-2009, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JRB__

I second that

luv2fish25 you are having a terrible intro to this hobby

Your fish are tropical fish and there for require a higher than room temprature temp.
Also, where are you keeping the water for 2 days before you add it to the tank? Is there any chance it is becoming contaminated some how during that time? cleaning chems, sprays etc??

Yes tell me about my intro into this.....I keep my water beside my tank covered with towels and boxes so nothing can get into it like my cats...LOL

luv2fish35 · 11-03-2009, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JRB__

luv2fish35 give us a complete run down on your set-up. Maybe with a little more info someone might have a lightbulb moment...

Tank size and measurements

Substrate + live plants

Ornaments, rocks, caves etc

All chemicals currently in use + names and brands

Filtration system, airation system + names and brands

Age of tank (time since set-up)

Kinds of fish kept

Testing kit/s you using + brands

And finally an up to date reading of ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH

Oh and btw, good job on not giving up yet. Most people would have.

OK i will try....I have a 29 gallon long tank with two filters and 1 air stone... 1 heater I had a live lilly plant in it I just recently got rid of because my mollys kept eating it and the plant was getting caught in my filters so good bye.
lets see next i'm not really using any chemicals now except for the Jungle brand water dechlorinator from Walmart.
I've got regular aquariam gravel and some larger decorative pebbles that I purchased from the dollar store a month ago for my babies to hide in but they have been washed well and have been in the tank for awhile now. i have about 8-9 plastic plants. I have 3 ceramic pieces.
Like I said its been set up now for about two months.
I use Jungle test strips to test my water with and the current reading today after my water change again last night is:
nitrate 0.0
nitrite 0.0
g.h 25
ppm0.0
kh 180
ph 8.4
I'm keeping (4)Mollies, (4)Platys, (4)guppys, (2)neons, (3)bloodfins, (1)pleco, (3)small corys

Newman · 11-03-2009, 03:09 PM

some of the readings confused me.
0ppm of what? (after the gh of 25)
You say that the GH is 25 dGH? or 25ppm GH?
It seems you mean that you have 180ppm KH...right?
The pH is mad high for neons, and blood fins, and maybe even the cory. I think the pleco can handle it.

Did you ever test your decorative pebbles with vinegar to get an idea on whether theyll raise your pH or not? (bubbling reaction to vinigar means dont use the pebles as they will raise the pH)

JRB__ · 11-04-2009, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Newman

......Did you ever test your decorative pebbles with vinegar to get an idea on whether theyll raise your pH or not? (bubbling reaction to vinigar means dont use the pebles as they will raise the pH)

hmm, nice tip, never heard that before

11-02-2009, 09:06 PM	#11
Newman Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,787	I do the same with my tap water, but when i change it it ends up cooling my tank 5 degrees F . idk if its too bad, but the fish have dealt with it. I meant about the pleco __________________ Credit goes to Lludu

11-02-2009, 10:21 PM	#14
JRB__ Little Fish Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 279	luv2fish35 give us a complete run down on your set-up. Maybe with a little more info someone might have a lightbulb moment... Tank size and measurements Substrate + live plants Ornaments, rocks, caves etc All chemicals currently in use + names and brands Filtration system, airation system + names and brands Age of tank (time since set-up) Kinds of fish kept Testing kit/s you using + brands And finally an up to date reading of ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH Oh and btw, good job on not giving up yet. Most people would have. __________________ ~ They call them fingers, but I've never seen them fing.. ~ 20 Gallon: Planted 5 Guppies 12 Neon Tetra 2 Otocinclus 5 Hockey Stick tetra Baby Blue acara 70 Gallon: Planted Cichlid Community 2 Peppermint Bristlenose 3 Clown Loach 110 Gallon: Lake Malawi Cichlid Community Banded Leporinus

11-03-2009, 03:09 PM	#19
Newman Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,787	some of the readings confused me. 0ppm of what? (after the gh of 25) You say that the GH is 25 dGH? or 25ppm GH? It seems you mean that you have 180ppm KH...right? The pH is mad high for neons, and blood fins, and maybe even the cory. I think the pleco can handle it. Did you ever test your decorative pebbles with vinegar to get an idea on whether theyll raise your pH or not? (bubbling reaction to vinigar means dont use the pebles as they will raise the pH) __________________ Credit goes to Lludu

11-02-2009, 09:42 PM	#12
epond83 Medium Fish Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 470	Do you have a heater in your tank? What is the temp in the tank? Pelcos propably need higher temps then a room temp tank. This is combined with an uncycled tank is not going to help. How long has this tank been up and running?