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Nostrathomas · 10-30-2009, 03:14 PM

Ammonia log- Halloween Eve. Ammonia still incredibly high in tank, is a weapon of mass destruction. Saw a cockroach in the basement earlier, used an eye dropped filled with my fish tank water to kill it, nearly instantly, an unlike alot of roaches I've seen,it never came back to life. I am through with water changes, through with chemicals, and ,for now, done testing it. It's pointless to test daily. The chances of it reading dark green are about the same as the chances of one getting wet in the shower. I have alot of fish now crammed into a 14 gallon tank, and I can't bear to look at them. They can see the 55 gallon tank from where they are, and I know they want in it. I can see it in their eyes. However, all my attempts at explaining to them the reason why they must wait in this jail tank have failed. They just don't seem to understand.

OrangeCones · 10-30-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Newman

Prime is another good water conditioner. most do their job well. i wont endorce prime tho...people might start jumping down my throat for using the expesive stuff.

Theres one thing i dont like about prime though, its lack of a dropper cap. it can easily be remedied by just poking one hole in the white stira-foam sealing cover.

I find that Prime is cheaper than most dechlors, since the dose is only 2 drops per gallon.

My bottle has a 'dropper cap.'

OrangeCones · 10-30-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostrathomas

They can see the 55 gallon tank from where they are, and I know they want in it. I can see it in their eyes. However, all my attempts at explaining to them the reason why they must wait in this jail tank have failed. They just don't seem to understand.

I tried to explain to my male Badis badis (plus his 15 babies that are about ready to ship out), that it was necessary to move him to a 10gallon while I rescaped the 29, but they don't understand either!

JRB__ · 11-02-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Newman

I used the API conditioner too before i ran out and got prime. its just one of those regular conditioners, it wont disrupt anything...

Hey Newman I use API Stress Coat+ as my water conditioner as its one of the only one's avaliable here. Is this just a run of the mill dechlors like the API tap water conditioner?
Thanks for any advice

Newman · 11-02-2009, 07:43 PM

Yes that does a good job of dechlorinating. I dont really like how its sludge based...(slimy) but it does not detoxify any ammonia, or nitrite, so be careful if your tap has ammonia or nitrite already in it.

Just so you know i do have a bottle of the stuff, and have used it in the past, a bit when adding fish.

JRB__ · 11-02-2009, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Newman

I dont really like how its sludge based...(slimy)

I was told that it's slimey because it has aloe vera in it and it helps fish to replenish their natural protective slime coating... don't know how true this is.

Newman · 11-02-2009, 09:56 PM

yea i read about the aloe too, and ive worked with the stuff (indeed its extremely slimey) i dont think it makes that much of a difference to the fish, but aloe has always been good for wounds in humans =/

JRB__ · 11-03-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Newman

.....i dont think it makes that much of a difference to the fish, but aloe has always been good for wounds in humans =/

lol thats true and fish are just so similar to humans...

OrangeCones · 11-03-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Newman

Yes that does a good job of dechlorinating. I dont really like how its sludge based...(slimy) but it does not detoxify any ammonia, or nitrite, so be careful if your tap has ammonia or nitrite already in it.

It actually DOES detoxify ammonia. And yes, the aloe is supposed to help the fish replace their slime coat if they've been injured in anyway.

JRB__ · 11-03-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeCones

It actually DOES detoxify ammonia. And yes, the aloe is supposed to help the fish replace their slime coat if they've been injured in anyway.

hmm, my bottle of API Stress Coat+ does not mention anything about detoxifying ammonia, and I thought thats why API developed Ammo Lock??

11-02-2009, 07:43 PM	#25 (permalink)
Newman Large Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 815	Yes that does a good job of dechlorinating. I dont really like how its sludge based...(slimy) but it does not detoxify any ammonia, or nitrite, so be careful if your tap has ammonia or nitrite already in it. Just so you know i do have a bottle of the stuff, and have used it in the past, a bit when adding fish. __________________ AQUARIUMS: 40 Gal 1 Female Orange & Black Oranda GF 1 Female Blood Red Swordtail 5 Otocinclus 3 Swordtail Fry 3 Cherry shrimp 1 Gold Apple Snail Java fern, Anubias, Anacharis, Cabomba, Marimo Moss, Flame Moss, Dwarf Hairgrass 10 Gal 2 Otocinlus 20+ Swordtail Fry 4 Cherry Shrimp Dwarf Sag HC 2.5 Gal Christmas moss 1 Female Deltatail Betta Credit goes to Lludu

11-02-2009, 09:56 PM	#27 (permalink)
Newman Large Fish Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 815	yea i read about the aloe too, and ive worked with the stuff (indeed its extremely slimey) i dont think it makes that much of a difference to the fish, but aloe has always been good for wounds in humans =/ __________________ AQUARIUMS: 40 Gal 1 Female Orange & Black Oranda GF 1 Female Blood Red Swordtail 5 Otocinclus 3 Swordtail Fry 3 Cherry shrimp 1 Gold Apple Snail Java fern, Anubias, Anacharis, Cabomba, Marimo Moss, Flame Moss, Dwarf Hairgrass 10 Gal 2 Otocinlus 20+ Swordtail Fry 4 Cherry Shrimp Dwarf Sag HC 2.5 Gal Christmas moss 1 Female Deltatail Betta Credit goes to Lludu

10-30-2009, 03:14 PM	#21 (permalink)
Nostrathomas Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 24	Ammonia log- Halloween Eve. Ammonia still incredibly high in tank, is a weapon of mass destruction. Saw a cockroach in the basement earlier, used an eye dropped filled with my fish tank water to kill it, nearly instantly, an unlike alot of roaches I've seen,it never came back to life. I am through with water changes, through with chemicals, and ,for now, done testing it. It's pointless to test daily. The chances of it reading dark green are about the same as the chances of one getting wet in the shower. I have alot of fish now crammed into a 14 gallon tank, and I can't bear to look at them. They can see the 55 gallon tank from where they are, and I know they want in it. I can see it in their eyes. However, all my attempts at explaining to them the reason why they must wait in this jail tank have failed. They just don't seem to understand.