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Old 10-26-2009, 09:05 PM   #11
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you sure you mean ppm?
cuz anything above 40ppm is bad for fish.
So how then do fish survive in such planted tanks as you describe?
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:09 PM   #12
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in heavily planted tanks nitrates ranging in the 200-300 ppm are VERY common. the bad smell comes from high ammonia in tanks not nitrAtes.
That is news to me. I've never had a reading over 20 for nitrates in any planted tank.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:12 PM   #13
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In the two planted tanks I've had (granted, not a lot of experience) I had trouble keeping nitrates up to 10, even with a heavier stocking level.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:12 PM   #14
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on another forum im a member of there is one guy i know for sure that has nitrates sky high like this. here is the link to his aquarium. as you can see all is well.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:15 PM   #15
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Well I cant see that all is well with that tank...

Cuz i have to register in order to see it

Maybe he confused the readings with something else...maybe it was GH not Nitrates?
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Old 10-26-2009, 11:45 PM   #16
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In the two planted tanks I've had (granted, not a lot of experience) I had trouble keeping nitrates up to 10, even with a heavier stocking level.
Agreed. I've been keeping planted tanks for almost 20 years, and I have to ADD a source of nitrogen on some tanks to keep nitrogen at 5ppm or higher(under that and Cyanobacteria - aka Blue-Green Algae (BGA)) gets a foothhold).

I'm curious, moneymitch, what test kit does your friend use that can measure a nitrate level that high? API Master Kit for freshwater can only show up to 160.
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:02 AM   #17
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on another forum im a member of there is one guy i know for sure that has nitrates sky high like this. here is the link to his aquarium. as you can see all is well.
Even he was shot down on that forum for recommending nitrates be that high. No matter, I know what my readings are, and I know they are accurate, and I know I've never seen nitrate in any of MY planted tanks over 20 once its mature and growing well.
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Old 10-27-2009, 04:58 AM   #18
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LOL!
Ok, moneymitch responded without thinking it through, we all make mistakes.

I'll definately get a nitrate kit, to be honest I've put it off because I've always had plans of buying the master kit which includes all three ammo,nitri,nitra + pH. Anyway thanks for the tip Newman.
Also guys I am reletively new to aquatic plants and having to maintain a higher level of nitrates is news to me. The morons at my LFS didn't mention anything about that or nitrogen. Just 'yeah they're really easy, nothing you have to add or do other than lots of fresh water!'. So any advice or newbie tips for plants or anything I should be aware of to do with plants would be great. Thanks-
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Old 10-27-2009, 11:59 AM   #19
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Read the planted forum thoroughly.
search for some other forums concentrating on plants, like the planted tank forum...
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So any advice or newbie tips for plants or anything I should be aware of to do with plants would be great. Thanks-
What plants do you have? Different plants require different care.

What kind of light do you have (type and watts)?
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