I just got a new tank... from guess where...

jo3olous · 07-03-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by homebunnyj

I don't understand... you need fish that jump for some reason?

I thought you wanted fish that don't jump, thus a betta would work nicely. ???

A lot of fish are jumpers. If you don't put a lid on a tank and your fish are stressed I'll bet you they'll all jump out at some point. So get a lid. Doesn't have to be one with a light. I have a simple mesh wire lid that are make for terrariums.

ValRasbora · 07-03-2009, 09:05 AM

Yeah I might get a cheapie one like that, good idea, then I could get the LED light... Hmm a beta would be nice.
homebunnyj...
I saw in a profile that betas are good jumpers... sorry if anyone else misunderstood me too!
OK another reason I DON'T want jumping fish is because even though I had a hood on my tank, there are still holes to put equipment in, right...? Once a fish of mine jumped out of there... And my tank WASN'T over-stocked when he jumped out, by the way!!

blue_ram · 07-03-2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ValRasbora

HEY! Nope, it's not a 15G... NOT A 29... BUT A.... 20 GALLON!!! yes, I am so happy!!

it's actually kinda odd, because I've been wanting to upgrade my 10gallon but didn't really feel like savin' up the $180+ to get a new tank and equipment!! YAYA! Now all I have to do is get about 70-100 bucks for a better filter, a light more gravel and maybe a heater. I unfortunately have a cheapie heater, but that's OK... BECAUSE THE TANK WAS FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I def don't want any jumpy fish, because it'll cost kinda alot to get a light hood, so I'm getting an LED light (clip-on) for about ten dollars. Yay!!

Yes I'll probably get about 5 more neons, and 4 more harlequins, plus a centerpiece fish of some type... Thanks guys!! I'll just put it where my 10G is, it'll fit on that dresser...
I AM SOOOO EXCITED!!

yay

An Aquaclear 20 should run about $29 and will work wonderfully in the 20. Walmart often has sales on their house brand filters which would be abotu $19 for a filter good enough for the 20. The Walmart filters are rebranded Marineland Penguin filters and reportedly can be retrofitted with a bio wheel.

Do not put a 20g tank on a dresser. The 20g will weigh over 200 lbs and even if the dresser holds for the short term, it will eventually fail. Depending on where you live, you might be able to find a nice stand at the store on clearance. I got one my perfecto 20 pine stands on clearance for $19 and the matching one for my 10g for $10at pet supermaket. I just recently found a 55 with perfecto pine stand at a Petco for $125.

jo3olous · 07-03-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ValRasbora

Yeah I might get a cheapie one like that, good idea, then I could get the LED light... Hmm a beta would be nice.
homebunnyj...
I saw in a profile that betas are good jumpers... sorry if anyone else misunderstood me too!
OK another reason I DON'T want jumping fish is because even though I had a hood on my tank, there are still holes to put equipment in, right...? Once a fish of mine jumped out of there... And my tank WASN'T over-stocked when he jumped out, by the way!!

I don't think you're getting my point. The tank does not have to be overstocked for a fish to be stressed. Another fish could be bullying it, something could be in the water, etc.

Yes some fish are escape artists. Take those FW crabs they sell at LFSs for 3-4.00, they are masters of escape. Fish like bala sharks and flying foxes are also very prone to leaping out the tank if there's gaps.

If you get the right lid there should be no gaps; possibly little creases where the filter sits, but you can usually get the lid fitted properly so that it's almost perfectly sealed, or just duct tape the cracks.

unwritten law · 07-03-2009, 11:11 AM

psh... I don't think you need a lid... even with a Betta... the fish jo names are related to freshwater sharks which all always jump...The neons and rasboras shouldn't jump at all and some live bearer or a Betta I think would be okay too....

ValRasbora · 07-03-2009, 02:40 PM

OK sorry there jo3olous... I guess it was maybe that he (the fish) had just gotten into my tank and was new there... whatevs. Once I saw a crab crawling its way across the floor at an LFS. lol it was pretty funny

also another reason I think that I would probably want a lid is because I really don't want my dog to chew up it if anything gets out, euwwwww that'd be gross

yuck... Anyways why hasn't anybody reccomended a centerpiece fish other than a betta? not that I don't like them, its just I'd like to look into other species. Thanks guys

!!

unwritten law · 07-03-2009, 03:08 PM

I figured you could research on what you like... and so far you only mentioned a betta or swordtail....

ValRasbora · 07-04-2009, 09:03 AM

How about this:
6 harlequin rasboras (I'll buy five more)
7 neon tetras (I'll buy 4 more)
1 male swordtail.

I like swordtails, especially males... they seem very appropriate for a centerpiece fish, don't you think? With those vibrant colors, unique tail... wouldn't it be nice??

ValRasbora · 07-04-2009, 05:30 PM

Hey how big do harlequins grow?? I've heard 1 inch, 1.5 inch and 2 inch... WHAT DO I BELIEVE?! In my experience, they've only grown 1 inch... but what do you guys say?

unwritten law · 07-04-2009, 06:44 PM

I'd count them as 1....

07-03-2009, 09:05 AM	#12
ValRasbora Large Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 605	Yeah I might get a cheapie one like that, good idea, then I could get the LED light... Hmm a beta would be nice. homebunnyj... I saw in a profile that betas are good jumpers... sorry if anyone else misunderstood me too! OK another reason I DON'T want jumping fish is because even though I had a hood on my tank, there are still holes to put equipment in, right...? Once a fish of mine jumped out of there... And my tank WASN'T over-stocked when he jumped out, by the way!! __________________ Fish aren't boring like everyone says! 20 gallon planted swordtail, platy, neon tetra, harlequin rasbora, albino corydoras, otocinclus Betta bowl (heated) nothing so far. soon to do a 10g betta tank with betta imbellis. Work in progress !

07-03-2009, 11:11 AM	#15
unwritten law Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WVU Posts: 1,351	psh... I don't think you need a lid... even with a Betta... the fish jo names are related to freshwater sharks which all always jump...The neons and rasboras shouldn't jump at all and some live bearer or a Betta I think would be okay too.... __________________ 20 Gallon High Reef 2 orange skunk clowns, yellow watchman goby, sixline wrasse, soft corals, zoas 46 Gallon Planted 5 tiger barbs, 2 keyhole cichlids, yoyo loach, cherry barb, blue gourami

07-03-2009, 02:40 PM	#16
ValRasbora Large Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 605	OK sorry there jo3olous... I guess it was maybe that he (the fish) had just gotten into my tank and was new there... whatevs. Once I saw a crab crawling its way across the floor at an LFS. lol it was pretty funny also another reason I think that I would probably want a lid is because I really don't want my dog to chew up it if anything gets out, euwwwww that'd be gross yuck... Anyways why hasn't anybody reccomended a centerpiece fish other than a betta? not that I don't like them, its just I'd like to look into other species. Thanks guys!! __________________ Fish aren't boring like everyone says! 20 gallon planted swordtail, platy, neon tetra, harlequin rasbora, albino corydoras, otocinclus Betta bowl (heated) nothing so far. soon to do a 10g betta tank with betta imbellis. Work in progress !

07-03-2009, 03:08 PM	#17
unwritten law Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WVU Posts: 1,351	I figured you could research on what you like... and so far you only mentioned a betta or swordtail.... __________________ 20 Gallon High Reef 2 orange skunk clowns, yellow watchman goby, sixline wrasse, soft corals, zoas 46 Gallon Planted 5 tiger barbs, 2 keyhole cichlids, yoyo loach, cherry barb, blue gourami

07-04-2009, 09:03 AM	#18
ValRasbora Large Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 605	How about this: 6 harlequin rasboras (I'll buy five more) 7 neon tetras (I'll buy 4 more) 1 male swordtail. I like swordtails, especially males... they seem very appropriate for a centerpiece fish, don't you think? With those vibrant colors, unique tail... wouldn't it be nice?? __________________ Fish aren't boring like everyone says! 20 gallon planted swordtail, platy, neon tetra, harlequin rasbora, albino corydoras, otocinclus Betta bowl (heated) nothing so far. soon to do a 10g betta tank with betta imbellis. Work in progress !

07-04-2009, 05:30 PM	#19
ValRasbora Large Fish Join Date: May 2009 Location: Atlantic Canada Posts: 605	Hey how big do harlequins grow?? I've heard 1 inch, 1.5 inch and 2 inch... WHAT DO I BELIEVE?! In my experience, they've only grown 1 inch... but what do you guys say? __________________ Fish aren't boring like everyone says! 20 gallon planted swordtail, platy, neon tetra, harlequin rasbora, albino corydoras, otocinclus Betta bowl (heated) nothing so far. soon to do a 10g betta tank with betta imbellis. Work in progress !

07-04-2009, 06:44 PM	#20
unwritten law Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WVU Posts: 1,351	I'd count them as 1.... __________________ 20 Gallon High Reef 2 orange skunk clowns, yellow watchman goby, sixline wrasse, soft corals, zoas 46 Gallon Planted 5 tiger barbs, 2 keyhole cichlids, yoyo loach, cherry barb, blue gourami