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How long can fish survive in plastic bags?

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My order was sent South West Airlines and was to arrive 15 hours later. I get to the air port/cargo ...

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    My order was sent South West Airlines and was to arrive 15 hours later. I get to the air port/cargo and the plane is running 2 1/2 hours late. SO I stick around and at 11:30 the lady tells me my cargo "fish was not on the plane and after some calling NO ONE KNOWS where it is.

    My guess is I will get it 30 to 40 hours after they were put in the bag if I am lucky. "Sometime before noon, crosses fingers".

    Any chance these guys will make it?

    I am not the violent type but after all this time cycling, pre-ordering my fish "a few hard to find or last ones" and now this! I would love to beat up someone at SW about now!

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    If they were packed correctly, they should make it. After all, a lot of fish get shipped from overseas, have to clear customs, etc. Most online stores offer a DOA guarantee. Sure, it can be a hassle, but you should get what you orderred in decent condition.
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    fewww, I hope so.

    thanks

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    I have heard of some people sending fish priority mail (2-3 days) and I assume most fish make it.

    You should let the company you ordered from know. If the fish arrive safely, you should still be able to get a refund on shipping if it wasn't delivered on time.
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    i'd say we are about to find out. please report back.
    john

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    Hope everything turns out OK for you and your fish.

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    I'm not sure how long the can last but I would immagine in excess of 24 hours.

    I guess the main thing you have to worry about is the ammonia levels in the water and the o2 levels.

    Most fish are fasted (<--god that word just looks wrong) prior to being shipped, so that they dont make their water filthy. Also there is usually a fair amount of air put in the bags.

    I had a mate that worked in the pet department of a "reputable" DIY store in the UK. He told me that the tropical fish were usually delivered late at night and just left outside in the loading bay until the morining. This was January when he told me this.

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    when fish are packed for transit - there are a few options that the sender can use.

    chemicals that lock out ammonia build up - more chemicals that produce oxygen - pure oxygen to top up the bag - stun chemicals to slow down the fishes metabolism - the list is endless

    add to that heat or chill packs etc.........

    when your fish arrive after such a journey, the water they are in may be pretty gummed up with all these chemicals, and care should be taken to acclimatise the fish to your tank water.

    float the bag in your tank, and splash a little tank water into the bag at regular intervals to get the fish used to its new environment - don't rush this proceedure - you'll only get one chance to get it right

    hope they're ok.....
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    Is this a science? "Not being funny here"

    For real should I put a 1/2 a shot glass of tank water in the bag every 15 mins or so and for how long.... till I can put them in the tank? I ask because if it matters I would like to know the times so I don't over do it, or under do it.

    I would hate to put the fish in the tank after an hour of the bag sitting in the tank and I should have waited 3 hours....

    I know not to put the bag water in the tank, to poor the water and fish into a net and then place the fish in the tank.

    I will test the Ph and Hardness of the water in the bags and hope it is close to mine.

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    There is some science to it, but lately there are some competing theories of how to handle acclimatization. Many of the larger cichlid (Angels, Discus and some south americans) breeders are now recommending the "Grab and plop" method.... Reason being, once you open the bag - Ammonia/ammonium levels go kind of wacky (as before they didn't have much O2 available - and the CO2 levels were rather high) Most would rather the fish were put into clean water ASAP for health reasons.

    I used to be a big advocate of the airline syphon drip method - these days, Net the fish and dump em into their new tanks - the less time spent in that cold nasty water the better.

    That said - follow your breeders instructions... otherwise DOA guarantee wont be honored.

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