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09-22-2003, 09:49 PM
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| | Super Fish
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| Making A DIY C02 Unit and C02 Mixture Article Since DIY C02 is a pretty popular method of injecting C02 into small tanks 30 gallons or less I've made an article to help anyone in the process of making a C02 unit. So lets just get right into it.
First were going to need a few things to make the unit. These include:
- A drill
- A few feet of tubing
- A pair of scissors
- A sealant
- A checkvalve (optional)
Now first you have to take the drill and find a bit that is just a little smaller then the diameter of the tubing (the kind of tubing you choose does'nt matter much, I used silicon because it has a little more resistance to C02 and will last a little longer than the normal clear tubing, but its fine if you choose the regualr tubing). Then cut the tubing down to the size of which it will be ran to your tank, also make sure to leave some loose tubing just incase you need to resituate the bottle or anything else dealing with the length of the tube. Then drill a hole in the center of the cap and fit the tubing in as snug as you can get it. Only put the tubing in 2-3 centimeters. After this is done you are ready to seal the cap.
So now bust of the sealant and get some in the cap against the tubing to make a secure seal. Let it sit for 30 minutes to an hour for it to dry somewhat. Then repeat the same thing for the top and let it sit. After your done sealing the tube don't mess with it much because it may move the tube and make it a less secure seal.
- Sealed Bottom
- Sealed Top
Now you may want to wait a full day just to make sure your sealant is fully sealed. Don't be impatient you'll probably end up resealing it if you do put it to use too soon.
By now you have finished making the C02 unit and you are ready to make the C02 mixture. This is what the end product should look like:
But before we jump right into making the mixture lets talk about methods of Diffusion.
There are tons of methods to diffuse the C02 into your tank. To list just a few there are:
- C02 Bells
- Diffusion Unit
- Injection into a Power Filter
- Airstones
Of course there are more but I dont want to get that detailed into the diffusion. If you are running a power filter just stick the tubing into the intake and the impellar will dissolve the C02 very well. Another easy method is an airstone, but let me tell you from my experience that it is a poor method and most of the C02 does'nt dissolve into the water. So I'd stick with the filter intake method it works great. How To Make the C02 Mixture
Okay now to make the mixture we need a few things:
- The 2L Bottle
- Sugar
- Yeast
- Measuring Spoon
- A funnel
I use the mixture of 2 cups sugar and 1/2 tsp of yeast. There are other mixtures and they have other affects. More yeast means the mixture will produce a lot of C02 but not last as long, as the yeast eats the sugar and a biproduct is the C02. So with this 1/2 a tsp it produces a constant C02 for a longer period of time, I would say for 3 weeks and the 1 tsp mixture lasts 2 weeks or less. Whatever you choose is fine, but I recommend the 2 cups and 1/2 tsp yeast.
Now take the bottle set the funnel in the top and get ready to pour in some sugar and yeast (you could use a piece of paper for a funnel if you dont have one, but i fortunately found one around the house). Now add the 2 cups of sugar, and the 1/2 tsp of yeast. Then its time to add the water. To get a good start of C02 production we want to use luke warm water, dont use hot water because this will kill the yeast. Fill the bottle with water up to the brim were it starts to curve into the top. Im not sure how to explain this that well, but just leave a 3" gap between the water level and the top.
Now you have the 2 cups of sugar, 1/2 tsp of yeast, and the water in the bottle. Find a cap and shake up the mixture well and then let hook it up to your sealed cap which should be hooked up the tank in your diffusion method that you chose. Dont leave the undrilled cap on the mixture and forget it, you will come back to a huge mess, remember this produces C02 and if its not left a point to exit it will turn into a bomb. Now that its hooked up it should take and hour or two to start producing. It may take a day depending on the temperature of water you used and if the yeast is active. Also remember to shake it up everyfew days to keep the unit producing C02.
Alrighty, you now should have a DIY C02 made up and the mixture producing. I hope this helps out anyone looking to make a cheap C02 unit. Good luck!
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09-23-2003, 12:15 AM
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| | Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: orbiting the earth in a moble suit.
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| thanks depthC i sticky'd the thread
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09-23-2003, 12:28 AM
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| | Little Fish
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Canada
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| Essentially the same system as I made for my 15g. Only I have a second smaller bottle after the 2L that I can use as a bubble counter to make sure it is still producing.
Thanks
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10-03-2003, 02:29 PM
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| | Teenie Weenie Fish
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida
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| I read at the krib ( http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/CO2/co2-ferm.html#8 ) that adding baking soda to the mix will help increase the active life of CO2 production. I am going to give it a try myself.
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10-03-2003, 04:18 PM
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| | Super Fish
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| Baking Soda is used as a buffer to keep the carbonated hardness up so the pH doesnt crash. In his case he had a real low pH so it was needed and i guess it made his batches last longer. Give it a try and tell us if it works.
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10-10-2003, 06:42 PM
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| | Super Fish
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| Well i got my article posted up on PlantedTank.net . I posted it in the DIY section and the webmaster asked to use it and ofcourse i said yes so here it is on his site. http://www.plantedtank.net/co2.html
Also check out their forum its a great forum and ive been reading and posting there lately. K just wanted to share my accomplishment.
- depthC |
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10-10-2003, 07:40 PM
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| | Super Fish
Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Florida
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| nice article just noticed it here, what mix and bottle size would you suggest for a 5 gal with 30 watt pc? tank is gonna be glosso
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10-10-2003, 07:56 PM
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| | Super Fish
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South Carolina
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| Ahh well i havent really worked with a smaller tank then a 10g, but with 3 wpg which is a good amount of light id suggest 1/4 tsp of yeast and 1.5 cups sugar. It might be the same as a 10g which could be 1 tsp or 1/2 tsp yeast and 2 cups sugar, but im unsure if the amount of C02 in a 10g setup Diy would be too much for a 5g tank. So if it was my tank id try a 1/2 tsp yeast and 2 cups sugar with fish just to see if they can handle that much C02, if they cant cut back on the yeast and this should make it produce less C02 and for a longer period. This is my opinion and maybe someone with a 5g setup can add to this but the only real risk could be suffocating your fish.
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10-14-2003, 11:46 PM
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| | Super Fish
Join Date: May 2003 Location: Springfield, MO
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| i just now noticed this thread-- once again i am very impressed with your skill depthC!
by the time you are as old as i am now you will be a seasoned veteran.
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10-17-2003, 05:17 PM
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| | Teenie Weenie Fish
Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO.
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| Excellent thread DepthC,
I was just wondering about the temp of the water.
It seems that with the system I put together the water cools down abit then just looks cloudy. Not a single bubble.
I have noticed that when I make beard you should keep the dough in a luke warm area for the best rise.
Is that true with a DIY CO2 System?
Should I try and insulate the bottle(s)?
Just curious and a little frustrated.
Thanks.
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