Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails

Disco · 07-17-2001, 09:33 AM

    Has anyone ever been able to keep ramshorn snails or amano shrimmp successfuly with their discus? My discus are always killing and eating my shrimp- it has turned in to a daily treat. Only one really fat one survived. What about Ram's horn snails? Would there be a parasite problem or a reproducing problem if I just bought a few? I'm just curious about this stuff because I'm getting my plants through mail order and I want to get any of these things before the plants come. Also, in a planted discus tank, is it possible to have too many plants and would it compromise the health of my fish?

arcab4 · 07-17-2001, 11:58 AM

what i've noticed is..if it fits in the mouth..it'll probably go into the mouth. =)

i know discus needs higher temperature than most fish. some plants will 'melt' at those temperatures so chose your plants carefully.

07-17-2001, 01:35 PM

very true about the plants arcab, you must choose your plants pretty carefully. what i have noticed is that if you plant your tank and give the discus more hiding spaces, they will hide a lot more. you have to plant pretty carefully when you do, as to not give them very many hiding spots, so they are out all the time. it's been pretty to do. as for the shrimp, instead of buying amano shrimp i bought some larger shrimp called "wood shrimp" they eat the same stuff, they just are larger and are reddish brown. they're cooler in my opinion too. the discus will eat amanos if they fit into their mouthes. ramshorns, i've had a few, they did fine. if you are worried about disease, quarantine them for a while, its better safe than sorry.

Disco · 07-17-2001, 05:20 PM

  Discusaquarium, I was thinking of putting all of my plants really densly at the corners and having open water at the front and the center of the tank, does this sound good? I want them to have some spots to hide but not too many becuase I want to enjoy the fish, too.

07-18-2001, 10:02 AM

I have the malaysian trumpet snails and my discus don't bother them even though  the snails are smaller than small can be. They are the best since they stay under the gravel cleaning and filtering and I never have to look at them

I have to many of them now though-they multiplied from 15 to about 300 in under a month

07-18-2001, 04:59 PM

Thats why I dont like having snails because they are asexual (I think thats what it is). That means they can produce without having a male and female snail, something similar to some plants.

Disco · 07-18-2001, 08:35 PM

Just in case, are there any plant safe/discus safe snail killers if I ever have to use it?

fishboy · 07-18-2001, 09:11 PM

[quote author=ronrca link=board=discus&num=995380386&start=0#5 date=07/18/01 at 14:59:31]
Thats why I dont like having snails because they are asexual (I think thats what it is). That means they can produce without having a male and female snail, something similar to some plants.
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Yes, that is correct 8)

07-20-2001, 06:23 AM

[quote author=Disco link=board=discus&num=995380386&start=0#3 date=07/17/01 at 15:20:27]
* Discusaquarium, I was thinking of putting all of my plants really densly at the corners and having open water at the front and the center of the tank, does this sound good? I want them to have some spots to hide but not too many becuase I want to enjoy the fish, too.
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sounds good to me, i allow some hiding spots, but not too many

;D

07-17-2001, 09:33 AM	#1
Disco Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 51	Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails     Has anyone ever been able to keep ramshorn snails or amano shrimmp successfuly with their discus? My discus are always killing and eating my shrimp- it has turned in to a daily treat. Only one really fat one survived. What about Ram's horn snails? Would there be a parasite problem or a reproducing problem if I just bought a few? I'm just curious about this stuff because I'm getting my plants through mail order and I want to get any of these things before the plants come. Also, in a planted discus tank, is it possible to have too many plants and would it compromise the health of my fish? __________________ Disco

07-17-2001, 11:58 AM	#2
arcab4 Administrator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sunny Southern California Posts: 1,143	*Re: Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails** what i've noticed is..if it fits in the mouth..it'll probably go into the mouth. =) i know discus needs higher temperature than most fish. some plants will 'melt' at those temperatures so chose your plants carefully.

07-17-2001, 05:20 PM	#4
Disco Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 51	*Re: Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails**   Discusaquarium, I was thinking of putting all of my plants really densly at the corners and having open water at the front and the center of the tank, does this sound good? I want them to have some spots to hide but not too many becuase I want to enjoy the fish, too. __________________ Disco

07-18-2001, 04:59 PM	#6
ronrca Guest Posts: n/a	*Re: Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails** Thats why I dont like having snails because they are asexual (I think thats what it is). That means they can produce without having a male and female snail, something similar to some plants.

07-18-2001, 08:35 PM	#7
Disco Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 51	*Re: Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails** Just in case, are there any plant safe/discus safe snail killers if I ever have to use it? __________________ Disco

07-17-2001, 01:35 PM	#3
discusaquarium Guest Posts: n/a	*Re: Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails** very true about the plants arcab, you must choose your plants pretty carefully. what i have noticed is that if you plant your tank and give the discus more hiding spaces, they will hide a lot more. you have to plant pretty carefully when you do, as to not give them very many hiding spots, so they are out all the time. it's been pretty to do. as for the shrimp, instead of buying amano shrimp i bought some larger shrimp called "wood shrimp" they eat the same stuff, they just are larger and are reddish brown. they're cooler in my opinion too. the discus will eat amanos if they fit into their mouthes. ramshorns, i've had a few, they did fine. if you are worried about disease, quarantine them for a while, its better safe than sorry.

07-18-2001, 10:02 AM	#5
geoffgarcia (Guest) Guest Posts: n/a	*Re: Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails** I have the malaysian trumpet snails and my discus don't bother them even though  the snails are smaller than small can be. They are the best since they stay under the gravel cleaning and filtering and I never have to look at them I have to many of them now though-they multiplied from 15 to about 300 in under a month

07-18-2001, 09:11 PM	#8
fishboy Super Fish Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 1,565	*Re: Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails [quote author=ronrca link=board=discus&num=995380386&start=0#5 date=07/18/01 at 14:59:31] Thats why I dont like having snails because they are asexual (I think thats what it is). That means they can produce without having a male and female snail, something similar to some plants. [/quote] Yes, that is correct 8) __________________ There is a light at the end of every tunnel, just pray it isn't a train. ----Ragin Algae---- Angel - Vocals C-Man - Drums fishboy - Lead Guitar Loach - Bass guitar Pooky - triangle Featuring the #1 hit single "Stacys Mom"!**

07-20-2001, 06:23 AM	#9
discusaquarium Guest Posts: n/a	*Re: Amano Shrimp and Ramshorn Snails** [quote author=Disco link=board=discus&num=995380386&start=0#3 date=07/17/01 at 15:20:27] * Discusaquarium, I was thinking of putting all of my plants really densly at the corners and having open water at the front and the center of the tank, does this sound good? I want them to have some spots to hide but not too many becuase I want to enjoy the fish, too. [/quote] sounds good to me, i allow some hiding spots, but not too many ;D