180g

tropicalcrazy · 07-02-2009, 09:45 AM

would a 180g be able to house certain africans with south americans and central american cichlids if you left plenty of hiding spots and would you be able to mix a wide variety? like maybe some rams, blood parrots (our LFS has yellow and red ones, would like 1 of each), and say some peacocks and maybe a demasoni

tropicalcrazy · 07-02-2009, 09:47 AM

and maybe some Apistogramma's

SinisterKisses · 07-02-2009, 02:47 PM

It's not about the tank size. They shouldn't be mixed because they come from completely different areas, mostly have differing water parameters, have different dietary needs, have different habitats, have different ways of interacting and socializing...it just isn't a good idea.

tropicalcrazy · 07-02-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinisterKisses

It's not about the tank size. They shouldn't be mixed because they come from completely different areas, mostly have differing water parameters, have different dietary needs, have different habitats, have different ways of interacting and socializing...it just isn't a good idea.

ok that makes sense. ok one more question then, can you mix SA with CA? i notice that everywhere i go they are always listed under the same category/grouping. or are the water parameters going to be different also?

SinisterKisses · 07-02-2009, 06:41 PM

If you do your research and be selective, you can mix some South Americans with some Centrals. Something like a severum - which is South - would do okay in a tank with some firemouths - which are Central.

tropicalcrazy · 07-03-2009, 08:57 AM

ok sweet thanks for clarifying that sinister.

tropicalcrazy · 07-28-2009, 04:03 PM

ok i think ive finally figured out the stocking for this. its gonna be i wouldnt say fully planted but more so medium

6 angelicus botia loaches 5"
1 rubber lip pleco 3"
1 clown pleco 3"
1 bristlenose or medusa head pleco 6"
1 blue paradise gourami 4"
1 albino rainbow shark 6"
1 redtail shark 6"
5 angels 6"
5 green tiger barbs 3"
10 zebra danios 3"
2 swordtails (variety) 4"
10 penguin tetra 3"
pair of apistos 4"

not sure how well the danios, tetras, and swordtails will go with the rest. i need some input please

tropicalcrazy · 07-28-2009, 04:43 PM

sorry did a little editing

6 angelicus botia loaches 5"
1 rubber lip pleco 3"
1 clown pleco 3"
1 bristlenose or medusa head pleco 6"
or
10 oto's
1 blue paradise gourami 4"
1 albino rainbow shark 6"
5 angels 6"
5 green tiger barbs 3"
10 zebra danios 3"
2 swordtails (variety) 4"
10 penguin tetra 3"
pair of apistos 4"

unwritten law · 07-28-2009, 07:47 PM

get the plecos instead... they are much hardier....

tropicalcrazy · 07-29-2009, 08:51 AM

will the angels mess with the danios, swordtail, or tetras?

07-02-2009, 09:45 AM	#1
tropicalcrazy Medium Fish Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: west des moines, iowa Posts: 425	180g would a 180g be able to house certain africans with south americans and central american cichlids if you left plenty of hiding spots and would you be able to mix a wide variety? like maybe some rams, blood parrots (our LFS has yellow and red ones, would like 1 of each), and say some peacocks and maybe a demasoni __________________ 55g 9 Neon Tetras 1" 1 Dwarf Gourami 3" 1 Female Red Wag Swordtail 2" 1 Male Neon Swordtail 2" / 3" with tail 1 Rosy Red Minnow 2" 1 Albino Rainbow Shark 6" 5 Otocinclus Catfish 1" 1 Clown pleco 3" 3 Yoyo loaches 4" Java Moss Multiple Java Ferns Multiple Anarchis 1 Amazon Sword Soon to be 2 Banana Plants, Sagittaria Subulata, and Micro Sword or Dwarf Hairgrass Rich Nutrient Dirt substrate Seachem Florish Liquid Fertilizer, twice a week

07-02-2009, 09:47 AM	#2
tropicalcrazy Medium Fish Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: west des moines, iowa Posts: 425	and maybe some Apistogramma's __________________ 55g 9 Neon Tetras 1" 1 Dwarf Gourami 3" 1 Female Red Wag Swordtail 2" 1 Male Neon Swordtail 2" / 3" with tail 1 Rosy Red Minnow 2" 1 Albino Rainbow Shark 6" 5 Otocinclus Catfish 1" 1 Clown pleco 3" 3 Yoyo loaches 4" Java Moss Multiple Java Ferns Multiple Anarchis 1 Amazon Sword Soon to be 2 Banana Plants, Sagittaria Subulata, and Micro Sword or Dwarf Hairgrass Rich Nutrient Dirt substrate Seachem Florish Liquid Fertilizer, twice a week

07-03-2009, 08:57 AM	#6
tropicalcrazy Medium Fish Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: west des moines, iowa Posts: 425	ok sweet thanks for clarifying that sinister. __________________ 55g 9 Neon Tetras 1" 1 Dwarf Gourami 3" 1 Female Red Wag Swordtail 2" 1 Male Neon Swordtail 2" / 3" with tail 1 Rosy Red Minnow 2" 1 Albino Rainbow Shark 6" 5 Otocinclus Catfish 1" 1 Clown pleco 3" 3 Yoyo loaches 4" Java Moss Multiple Java Ferns Multiple Anarchis 1 Amazon Sword Soon to be 2 Banana Plants, Sagittaria Subulata, and Micro Sword or Dwarf Hairgrass Rich Nutrient Dirt substrate Seachem Florish Liquid Fertilizer, twice a week

07-28-2009, 04:03 PM	#7
tropicalcrazy Medium Fish Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: west des moines, iowa Posts: 425	ok i think ive finally figured out the stocking for this. its gonna be i wouldnt say fully planted but more so medium 6 angelicus botia loaches 5" 1 rubber lip pleco 3" 1 clown pleco 3" 1 bristlenose or medusa head pleco 6" 1 blue paradise gourami 4" 1 albino rainbow shark 6" 1 redtail shark 6" 5 angels 6" 5 green tiger barbs 3" 10 zebra danios 3" 2 swordtails (variety) 4" 10 penguin tetra 3" pair of apistos 4" not sure how well the danios, tetras, and swordtails will go with the rest. i need some input please __________________ 55g 9 Neon Tetras 1" 1 Dwarf Gourami 3" 1 Female Red Wag Swordtail 2" 1 Male Neon Swordtail 2" / 3" with tail 1 Rosy Red Minnow 2" 1 Albino Rainbow Shark 6" 5 Otocinclus Catfish 1" 1 Clown pleco 3" 3 Yoyo loaches 4" Java Moss Multiple Java Ferns Multiple Anarchis 1 Amazon Sword Soon to be 2 Banana Plants, Sagittaria Subulata, and Micro Sword or Dwarf Hairgrass Rich Nutrient Dirt substrate Seachem Florish Liquid Fertilizer, twice a week

07-28-2009, 04:43 PM	#8
tropicalcrazy Medium Fish Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: west des moines, iowa Posts: 425	sorry did a little editing 6 angelicus botia loaches 5" 1 rubber lip pleco 3" 1 clown pleco 3" 1 bristlenose or medusa head pleco 6" or 10 oto's 1 blue paradise gourami 4" 1 albino rainbow shark 6" 5 angels 6" 5 green tiger barbs 3" 10 zebra danios 3" 2 swordtails (variety) 4" 10 penguin tetra 3" pair of apistos 4" __________________ 55g 9 Neon Tetras 1" 1 Dwarf Gourami 3" 1 Female Red Wag Swordtail 2" 1 Male Neon Swordtail 2" / 3" with tail 1 Rosy Red Minnow 2" 1 Albino Rainbow Shark 6" 5 Otocinclus Catfish 1" 1 Clown pleco 3" 3 Yoyo loaches 4" Java Moss Multiple Java Ferns Multiple Anarchis 1 Amazon Sword Soon to be 2 Banana Plants, Sagittaria Subulata, and Micro Sword or Dwarf Hairgrass Rich Nutrient Dirt substrate Seachem Florish Liquid Fertilizer, twice a week

07-02-2009, 02:47 PM	#3
SinisterKisses Super Fish Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,086	It's not about the tank size. They shouldn't be mixed because they come from completely different areas, mostly have differing water parameters, have different dietary needs, have different habitats, have different ways of interacting and socializing...it just isn't a good idea.

07-02-2009, 06:41 PM	#5
SinisterKisses Super Fish Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,086	If you do your research and be selective, you can mix some South Americans with some Centrals. Something like a severum - which is South - would do okay in a tank with some firemouths - which are Central.

07-28-2009, 07:47 PM	#9
unwritten law Super Fish Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: WVU Posts: 1,350	get the plecos instead... they are much hardier.... __________________ 20 Gallon High Reef 2 orange skunk clowns, yellow watchman goby, sixline wrasse, soft corals, zoas 46 Gallon Planted 5 tiger barbs, 2 keyhole cichlids, yoyo loach, cherry barb, blue gourami

07-29-2009, 08:51 AM	#10
tropicalcrazy Medium Fish Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: west des moines, iowa Posts: 425	will the angels mess with the danios, swordtail, or tetras? __________________ 55g 9 Neon Tetras 1" 1 Dwarf Gourami 3" 1 Female Red Wag Swordtail 2" 1 Male Neon Swordtail 2" / 3" with tail 1 Rosy Red Minnow 2" 1 Albino Rainbow Shark 6" 5 Otocinclus Catfish 1" 1 Clown pleco 3" 3 Yoyo loaches 4" Java Moss Multiple Java Ferns Multiple Anarchis 1 Amazon Sword Soon to be 2 Banana Plants, Sagittaria Subulata, and Micro Sword or Dwarf Hairgrass Rich Nutrient Dirt substrate Seachem Florish Liquid Fertilizer, twice a week