What are the problems mixing 'African' and SA cichlids

cinlnk · 05-17-2006, 11:42 AM

Great Job Wayne... Could this be a Sticky on the Cichlid Forum?

Pure · 05-17-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BRANDX

Nice info on the differences, too bad my lfs didn't have any idea about any of that when I got my first four SA Cichlids at 9:00 pm. It would be nice if they promoted forums to new fish buyers.

The sad truth is that most LFS do not like internet forums..Think about how much $ they loose because of us.

I agree this thread should be stickied

Emmm Edit..It is stickied. Next time I'll check before opening my yap.

RISK2123 · 08-30-2006, 01:25 PM

also just wanted to add, most african cichlids will chase eachother in circles untill one breaks away, essentially giving up. while most SA & CA will do more of a lip locking or head to head battle. two quite different ways of showing dominance in the tank and they can become very confused when both methods are used in the same tank. it will lead to more aggression due to unclear dominance issues.

Orion · 10-27-2006, 06:46 AM

Time for a Bump!

Triple88a · 10-29-2006, 10:22 AM

my african cichlids dont eat worms :S so i gotta give them all bunch of diffferent foods so no one stays hungry but besides that mine are surviving great.

avidcichlovr · 04-08-2007, 10:26 PM

I couldn't have said it any better than what you said Wayne. Great job on the post. And yes I agree it should become a Stickie....Thanks for all the great info. We have all Lake Malawian cichlids...except for the 2 pinks and the usd cat

exhumed07 · 05-14-2007, 03:43 AM

I'm an african nut. I love all of them and don't have any reason to buy a SA or CA. I try to make my tanks as natural as possible. and this forum explains one reason why I don't mix. pluss my verry trustworthy lfs told me it can work in some instances but be better off not mixing them. stickie would be a good idea. lots of great info. good job

ZooKeeper · 01-27-2008, 07:34 AM

snort.. lfs - Petland has the worse 'experts' you can find anywhere. Shoot, they had a special on danio's - 44 cent a piece. Said my O's wouldn't be able to catch 'em they be so fast. Trouble with an O is they be smart. Slow, but smart. Fetched one danio up against the corner and snap, it was a light snack. Whole lot of 4 got eaten inside o 30 min. They worked it out between themselves the best way of catching the rest. Took turns chasing 'em whilst the other 2 laid in hiding and snap! snap! a quick gulp and they each had one. Tails sticking out their mouths. Yep, I reckon I'll stay away from such experts in the future.

ZP

marvin · 01-27-2008, 02:49 PM

guess what convicts are sa the mix is not a good idea granted but it can be done..

marvin · 01-27-2008, 10:15 PM

Incidentally when most people talk about 'africans' they mean mbuna, rock dwelling cichlids from lake Malawi..... wrong....any way nice article.. one thing you forgot to mention is there are soft water and hard water SA's hard water species will do fine with african if you do your research. i have many
Tanganikiya's that "need ph of 8.3" and do fine in 7.6 i picked up 4 Lamprologus compressicep 4 different colors ,arm and leg for the black suggested 8.3 to 8.7 they now live in 7.6... i wouldnt have any more SA's if they were given to me. disease is the main reasion...

05-17-2006, 11:42 AM	#11
cinlnk Large Fish Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Who said anything about living? I merely EXIST!!! Posts: 805	Great Job Wayne... Could this be a Sticky on the Cichlid Forum? __________________ "Some People Live An Entire Lifetime and Wonder If They Have Ever Made a Difference In The World, The Marines Don't Have That Problem" --Ronald Reagan--

08-30-2006, 01:25 PM	#13
RISK2123 Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: L.A. Cali Posts: 70	also just wanted to add, most african cichlids will chase eachother in circles untill one breaks away, essentially giving up. while most SA & CA will do more of a lip locking or head to head battle. two quite different ways of showing dominance in the tank and they can become very confused when both methods are used in the same tank. it will lead to more aggression due to unclear dominance issues. __________________ Theres plenty of fish in the sea... and i want em all!! 55G- Lake Malawi Cichlid Tank 55G-5 Discus, 3 Red Tail Barracudas, lightly planted (2.3 WPG) 45G- Small Flowerhorn 20G Long- 4 Female and 1 Male Betta (soon to change), Heavily planted (4.15 WPG) 20G- Breeding Convicts for feeder food.

10-27-2006, 06:46 AM	#14
Orion Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,666	Time for a Bump! __________________ I am Species 5618: Coffee Based life form Join us in the MFT.net chatroom!

04-08-2007, 10:26 PM	#16
avidcichlovr Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: st.paul,mn. Posts: 17	I couldn't have said it any better than what you said Wayne. Great job on the post. And yes I agree it should become a Stickie....Thanks for all the great info. We have all Lake Malawian cichlids...except for the 2 pinks and the usd cat __________________ I am all out of breathe 80 gallon bowfront tank=2 electric yellows, 2 bluepeacocks, 2 cobalt blues, 1 electric blue, 1 red zebra, 1 upside down cat, 2 orange blossom, 2 pink kissing gouramis, and 1little eletric fry 20 high gallon= 2 blue gouramis, 3 penguin tetra, 3 red minors, 1 albino catfish, and 1 full tail betta

05-14-2007, 03:43 AM	#17
exhumed07 Large Fish Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 698	I'm an african nut. I love all of them and don't have any reason to buy a SA or CA. I try to make my tanks as natural as possible. and this forum explains one reason why I don't mix. pluss my verry trustworthy lfs told me it can work in some instances but be better off not mixing them. stickie would be a good idea. lots of great info. good job __________________ 20 gallon 45 baby electric blue red shoulder peacocks 1 dojo loach 1 bushy nose pleco 30 gallon, going to be a species tank of brichardi 50 baby/juvie electric blue red shoulder peacocks 1 clown pleco 2 brichardi 55 gallon 1 tiger shovelnose/redtailed catfish hybrid 1 bushy nose pleco 5 elecrtic yellow labs 5 mainganos 1 venustus 5 yellow lab maingano hybrids 5 electric blue red shoulder peacocks 1 male 4 female

10-29-2006, 10:22 AM	#15
Triple88a Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 16	my african cichlids dont eat worms :S so i gotta give them all bunch of diffferent foods so no one stays hungry but besides that mine are surviving great.

01-27-2008, 07:34 AM	#18
ZooKeeper Teenie Weenie Fish Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 23	snort.. lfs - Petland has the worse 'experts' you can find anywhere. Shoot, they had a special on danio's - 44 cent a piece. Said my O's wouldn't be able to catch 'em they be so fast. Trouble with an O is they be smart. Slow, but smart. Fetched one danio up against the corner and snap, it was a light snack. Whole lot of 4 got eaten inside o 30 min. They worked it out between themselves the best way of catching the rest. Took turns chasing 'em whilst the other 2 laid in hiding and snap! snap! a quick gulp and they each had one. Tails sticking out their mouths. Yep, I reckon I'll stay away from such experts in the future. ZP

01-27-2008, 02:49 PM	#19
marvin Little Fish Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 207	mixing african and sa cichlids guess what convicts are sa the mix is not a good idea granted but it can be done.. __________________ 5,000 gallons

01-27-2008, 10:15 PM	#20
marvin Little Fish Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 207	Incidentally when most people talk about 'africans' they mean mbuna, rock dwelling cichlids from lake Malawi..... wrong....any way nice article.. one thing you forgot to mention is there are soft water and hard water SA's hard water species will do fine with african if you do your research. i have many Tanganikiya's that "need ph of 8.3" and do fine in 7.6 i picked up 4 Lamprologus compressicep 4 different colors ,arm and leg for the black suggested 8.3 to 8.7 they now live in 7.6... i wouldnt have any more SA's if they were given to me. disease is the main reasion... __________________ 5,000 gallons