Ok, no actinic lighs, and if I chose not to put vals americana in the tank, apporox 1.5-2 wpg should be good for the other plants? Ferts in the substrate and possibly a CO2 system. Found one for pretty cheap at LFS, not sure how much water it will condition though. Within a week or two I am going to get the substrate and plants in and enjoy all of your help and comments. This site is the best.